Character Archives | The Art of Manliness https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/ Men's Interest and Lifestyle Tue, 25 Nov 2025 15:24:38 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 How to Set a Table https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/etiquette/how-to-set-a-table/ Thu, 20 Nov 2025 16:29:22 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191688 For most dinners, you’d be forgiven for not properly setting the table. But for holidays, dinner parties, and other special occasions, taking the time to set a table with the right utensils and dishes lends an air of significance to the occasion — something that feels particularly rare in our modern age. On a practical […]

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Diagram of a formal table setting showing the placement of plates, utensils, glasses, and napkin, with each item labeled for clarity—a helpful guide on how to set a table.

For most dinners, you’d be forgiven for not properly setting the table. But for holidays, dinner parties, and other special occasions, taking the time to set a table with the right utensils and dishes lends an air of significance to the occasion — something that feels particularly rare in our modern age.

On a practical level, though, most advice on this topic goes rather overboard with dinnerware, glassware, and silverware that 99% of households don’t have. Not to mention, the majority of tables simply don’t have space for each setting to have three plates and three glasses and a handful of flatware items. 

So in the guide above we sought to strike a balance between proper and practical. We’ve put the napkin under the forks to save space; we’ve not included dessert-specific items, as those things usually come out only after dinner has been cleared; and we’ve opted for just two beverage glasses, one for water and one for wine (or, really, whatever the special drink of choice is for the evening). Also note that spoons should technically only be placed if there’s a dish that requires it, but especially when kids (who often like using spoons more than forks) are included, they can be part of the place setting no matter what. 

Finally, it’s worth noting that this is a great job for kids to do in preparation for a party. It’s straightforward and helps keep them involved rather than just sitting around and asking when people are going to arrive or when dinner will be served.

Illustrated by Ted Slampyak

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Podcast #1,094: How the World Wars Shaped J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/knowledge-of-men/podcast-1094-how-the-world-wars-shaped-j-r-r-tolkien-and-c-s-lewis/ Tue, 18 Nov 2025 15:38:45 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191603 When people think of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, they often picture tweedy Oxford professors and beloved fantasy authors. But their writing wasn’t drawn only from their bucolic days teaching at Oxford and walking in the English countryside; it had a darker, deeper backdrop: the trenches of World War I and the cataclysm of World […]

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When people think of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, they often picture tweedy Oxford professors and beloved fantasy authors. But their writing wasn’t drawn only from their bucolic days teaching at Oxford and walking in the English countryside; it had a darker, deeper backdrop: the trenches of World War I and the cataclysm of World War II. Lewis and Tolkien weren’t just fantasy writers — they were war veterans, cultural critics, and men with firsthand knowledge of evil, heroism, and sacrifice.

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Joseph Loconte, returning to the show to discuss his latest book, The War for Middle Earth. We explore how both world wars shaped the perspectives of Tolkien and Lewis, found their way into works like The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia, and infused their literary masterpieces with moral weight, spiritual depth, and timeless themes of resistance, friendship, and redemption. We also talk about the legendary friendship between Tolkien and Lewis, the creation of the Inklings, and how the men demonstrated the countercultural power of imaginative storytelling.

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Brett McKay:

Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast. When people think of JR Tolkien and CS Lewis, they often picture tweedy Oxford professors and beloved fantasy authors. But their writing wasn’t drawn only from the bucolic days teaching at Oxford and walking in the English countryside, it had a darker, deeper backdrop: the trenches of World War I and the cataclysm of World War II. Lewis and Tolkien weren’t just fantasy writers, they were war veterans, cultural critics, and men with firsthand knowledge of evil, heroism and sacrifice. 

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Joseph Loconte, returning to the show to discuss his latest book, The War for Middle-earth. We explore how both world wars shaped perspectives of Tolkien and Lewis found their way into works like The Lord in the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia, and infuse their literary masterpieces with moral weight, spiritual depth, timeless themes of resistance, friendship, and redemption. We also talk about the legendary friendship between Tolkien and Lewis, the creation of the inklings and how the men demonstrated the countercultural power of imaginative storytelling. After the show’s over, check out our show notes at aom.is/warformiddleearth.

All right, Joseph Loconte, welcome back to the show.

Joseph Loconte:

Brett, it’s great to be with you. Thanks so much for having me.

Brett McKay:

So you got a new book out called The War for Middle-earth, and this is where you explore how both World War I and World War II shaped the writing of JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis. Why did you decide to do a deep dive into how these wars affected these guys?

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, I think particularly the Second World War, as I began reading more and researching more, it became obvious, Brett, that the real action is the Second World War. Both men were affected profoundly by World War I — impossible not to be affected if you fought it, if both those men did and they survived. It was a traumatic experience for both, and I think it helped to shape their imaginations. But the Second World War is where the action is because now they are living through a cataclysmic event. It’s an existential crisis for Great Britain from 1939 to about 1945 really. And that’s when they’re writing their most important works, the works that we associate with these men. The Lord of the Rings, The Screw Tape Letters, The Great Divorce, and then the idea for The Chronicles of Narnia. All that is going on in those nightmare years between 1939 and 1945.

Brett McKay:

Alright, so to understand these works, you have to understand World War II.

Joseph Loconte:

That’s exactly right. And you have to understand, I think Brett is also from the British perspective, not the American perspective, because as my British friends like to remind me, we showed up late to that war.

Brett McKay:

And I mean, they saw it firsthand during the Blitz as getting bombed day in and day out. It was brutal.

Joseph Loconte:

Think about it, Brett. Let’s just take the London Blitz for a second. 76 consecutive nights save one of aerial bombardment on the city of London, and within a few days it’s millions, literally millions of people, women and children mostly evacuated from London into the countryside. And this is the way that CS Lewis gets the idea for The Chronicles of Narnia. Think about how it starts about children sent away because of the air raids into an old house with an old professor out in the countryside. He writes in the opening lines to The Chronicles of Narnia in 1939. So the war becomes a spark for their imagination.

Brett McKay:

Well, you mentioned World War I had a big impact on them and their experience in World War I carried over to their experience of World War II. Both of these men fought in World War I. What were the respective experiences like?

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, both of them served as a second lieutenant in the British expeditionary force. They served in France. Tolkien was sent to the SOM in 1916 and the opening day, the Battle of July 1st, 1916, is still the single bloodiest day in British military history. Nearly 20,000 soldiers killed on the opening day. Tolkien will arrive a few days later, but the battle of the P song will rage on for months. And he lost most of his closest friends in that war, as did CS Lewis who arrives on the western front in France on his 19th birthday, happy Birthday, CS Lewis. And here you are with bullets flying a mortar shell will go off close to Lewis. It obliterates his sergeant and fragments of it strike him in the chest, the hand he thinks he’s going to die. And so it’s a profoundly difficult grief stricken moment for both of these men. And there’s no question in my mind that you carry not just the physical wounds of physical scars, but the emotional scars of that into your adult life.

Brett McKay:

Are there any instances in their later writings where you can see the influence of their experience in World War I show up?

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, I think, and other authors have looked into this. John Garth, for example, who’s written a wonderful book on Tolkien and the Great War, lemme read you a few lines just from The Hobbit here, Brett, which Tolkien published in 1937. He wrote The Hobbit in 33, publishes it in 37. Here’s a few lines. He’s describing the goblins. “The goblins are cruel, wicked, bad hearted. They make no beautiful things, but they make many clever ones hammers and swords, daggers, pick-axes, tongs they make very well. It is not unlikely that they invented some of the machines that have since troubled the world, especially the ingenious devices for killing large numbers of people at once for wheels and engines and explosions, always delighted them.”Now what does that sound like? It sounds like the diary of a guy who served in the mechanized slaughter of the First World War, doesn’t it?

Brett McKay:

Yeah. And you also see the influence of World War I and Tolkien’s writing. The way he describes Mordor. Mordor is just sort of this desolate hot, gray, ugly place. And during World War I, that’s what a lot of Europe looked like.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. And he says explicitly in a couple of places in his letters that the advanced to Mordor with Frodo and Sam when they go into the dead marshes and the line from Sam is there are dead things, dead things in the water. And Martin Gilbert, who wrote one of the definitive books on the Battle of the Somme, says Tolkien is describing exactly what a soldier would’ve experienced in with these craters created by the mortars filling up with water, men, soldiers would slip into them die, and they’d be there for days or weeks on end. So it’s a vivid, explicit memory from the First World War.

Brett McKay:

And what about Lewis? Because he’s known for his Christian apologetics, but it seems like World War I kind of entrenched his atheism that he had then.

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, I mean, think about the poetry he’s writing in 1917 to 1919 his book of poems. This is an atheist raging against what seems to be an unjust universe. And if there is a God, he’s a sadist. Let us curse our master air, we die, the good is dead. I mean, it’s pretty grim stuff. I think it does deepen his atheism. But at the same time, I think it helps to launch him on a spiritual quest because he’ll begin to figure out that his materialism is unsatisfying. Because Lewis can’t get away from the fact that he has these profound experiences of joy and experience of beauty. And he can’t, at the end of the day conclude that it means nothing, that there’s nothing behind it. And so that’s part of his spiritual question. Tolkien, of course, will play a huge role in his conversion to Christianity.

Brett McKay:

You spent a lot of time in the book discussing the cultural mood that overtook the West after World War I. We typically think of it as an age of cynicism and disillusionment, the lost generation. And you do that because you argue, and a lot of other historians argue the aftermath of World War I planted the seeds for World War II. Tell us more about the cultural mood of that time period and how did CS Lewis and Tolkien respond to that?

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, it’s a big question, Brett. Lemme take a stab at it. Barbara Tuchman, who wrote the Pulitzer Prize winning book, The Guns of August, she describes the mood by the end of the First World War. She puts it in one word, disillusionment. Disillusionment. And what are people disillusioned with? They’re disillusioned with the ideals of Western civilization, the political and religious ideals. So democracy, liberal democracy, capitalism, the ethics and the principles of religion, the idea that individuals matter and have dignity. I mean, it was hard to maintain this concept of the heroic individual men and women making individual decisions that matter. The whole concept of virtue. All of that seemed to just vanish into the killing fields of 1914 to 1918. So disillusionment. And of course that just creates a vacuum. People still have a yearning to believe, a yearning for the transcendent. And instead of reaching for the old faiths, the great historic faiths, they’re reaching for what you might call political religions. So it’s no coincidence, Brett, that what do you see being launched in the 1920s and thirties in terms of political and social movements? Well, eugenics, think about that. The movement of eugenics, the pseudo pseudoscientific idea of eugenics takes hold in Europe and in the United States as well. Fascism, Naziism and communism, they all take flight in the light of the carnage of that first world war. And Lewis and Tolkien have a ringside seat to that in Great Britain.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. And you also talk about psycho-analysis really rose to prominence during this period too, because people were looking for meaning because they didn’t see any. And they said, well, maybe the best we can do is lay on a couch and talk about our childhoods.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. And Freud of course, really comes into his own in the 1920s, is booked the future of an illusion. He goes after religion as a psychosis, and that becomes a dominant view. And that influenced CS Lewis when he was an atheist in a profound way because he thought, well, religions are just wish fulfillments, wish fulfillments. That’s Freud. And Lewis has to shake himself loose of that thinking. And he does in his first kind of spiritual autobiography, the Pilgrim’s Regress, which he published in 1933, a couple of years after he became a Christian, he goes after Sigmund Freud with an ax, rhetorically speaking. He realizes this is all kind of begging the question with Freud, what is it that we truly wish for? So yeah, there’s a real influence of psychoanalysis. Think about the ideologies, the forces that are pressing on these guys as they’re starting to write their epic work spread. And this is what’s so deeply encouraging to me. I think that they are deliberately pushing back against these ideologies, the totalitarian state, the idea that the individual doesn’t matter, religion as a psychosis, the idea that there is nothing heroic about human life and think about what they’re writing, the Hobbit, the Lord of the Rings, the Space trilogy, the Chronicles of Narnia. They are deliberately pushing back against the cultural literary establishment of the day.

Brett McKay:

Well, and you talk about Tolkien started this pushback even before he wrote The Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings as a professor at Oxford. What people often forget about Tolkien was that besides being a fantastic fantasy writer, he was a first rate scholar and one of his expertise was in Beowulf.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes, that’s exactly right. I think that was probably the most important work for him professionally and personally, this Scandinavian hero from the sixth century who takes on grendel these monsters, Grendel, Grendel’s mother and the dragon. And he translated that work. He taught on it for decades, and it clearly influenced his imagination about the idea of the heroic, the individual who goes out to meet danger and doesn’t flinch. And he’s doing it not for his own personal glory, but he’s doing it because there’s a deep need to protect the innocent from great harm. And you see how Beowulf just works its way through his great imaginative works. You’re absolutely right. And that’s a deliberate pushback though. He’s trying to retrieve. I think Brett Tolkien and Lewis both are trying to retrieve the concept of the epic hero, but they’re reinventing him for the modern mind in the 20th century, and that’s part of their great achievement.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. You talk about Tolkien got that idea from Norse mythology besides Beowulf, he devoured, he loved the myths of the North, but this idea of the tragic hero, like you stand up for something because it’s right, even though you know there’s a good chance you’re going to fail.

Joseph Loconte:

That’s right. There’s something about the idea of your back is to the wall, but you’re not going to back down. You’re going to die on your feet. And that appeals to both these men. The thing about Lewis, he said himself, outside of the Bible, the most important work on his professional life piece of literature would’ve been Virgil’s aad. And what’s the aad? Anas is this heroic figure who takes on this great calling, this great task, the founding of Rome. It’s the founding myth of ancient Rome. He’s kind of a reluctant hero and he has to face all kinds of dangers. So both these men were drawn to these epic stories of the heroic quest, and that’s what drew them together in friendship. One of the huge threads in their friendship.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, we’ll talk about how they met because that was really interesting. But yeah, so Tolkien, he was a devout Catholic. He was using Beowulf professionally, but also personally on this mission. I’m going to push back against all this stuff I’m seeing during this time in the interwar period, CS Lewis, as you said, he was an atheist, but you describe how his love of classics and of myths, that’s the thing that eventually led him to his conversion to Christianity.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. And I think one person we have to mention in this journey is George McDonald, the Scottish author, 19th century Scottish author who in his fiction, he imbues fiction with a sense of, I don’t know how else to say it except a transcendent. There’s something enchanting about McDonald and what Lewis said about McDonald. He first picked him up, fantastic, his fictional work in 1916 in the middle of the first World War. And Lewis said, when he read that book, he said, I knew after a few hours that I had crossed a great frontier. And that when McDonald had done was he had helped to baptize his imagination. Lewis’s phrase. Now, I’m not sure I know exactly what that means, Brett, the baptize your imagination. But Lewis went on further to say it helped him to learn to love goodness, this skeptical atheist, learning to love goodness through this author of imaginative fantasy. So that was a template in some ways, I think for Lewis, profound influence on his literary life.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, I mean he talks later on about the role of myth, like Nor Smith Greek myths and his conversion. So the McDonald work helped him become a theist, but then he talks about his conversion to Christianity with that famous Addison’s walk with Tolkien where he had this conversation. He’s like, yeah, I can actually say I’m a Christian now. But Lewis talks about this idea of the true myth.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes.

Brett McKay:

Tell us about that. What does he mean by the true myth?

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. And this is the conversation in Addison’s walk with Hugo Dyson, a JRO, Tolkien and CS Lewis After dinner, they’re walking and Lewis’s great hangup. And this kind of went back to Freud was Christianity. It’s just like all the other pagan myths. That’s what he’s thinking more or less up until that moment. It doesn’t have any truth value. It’s a nice story. It’s an inspiring story. Tolkien challenges him because Tolkien’s understanding of myth was, there’s the great story, the Christian story. God becomes a man. The God man dies for our sin rises from the dead. The person of Jesus. That’s the great myth. Myth meaning, not that it’s not true, but it has this sort of epic feel, heroic feel. It expresses our deepest aspirations and longings in that sense, it’s mythic. But what Tolkien helps Lewis to see is Christianity. It’s a myth that became fact. And the reason CS Lewis was so drawn to these other pagan myths is because they were derivative of the great myth. They were splintered fragments of the true light as Tolkien put it. And that’s the intellectual breakthrough Brett, for CS Lewis on Addison’s walk when he begins to grasp for the first time, wait a minute, Christianity has the ring of truth, the myth that became fact, that’s the breakthrough. And within a matter of days, he becomes a Christian.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. Well, let’s talk about 1926, because that’s the year Lewis and Tolkien met.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes.

Brett McKay:

What was that initial meeting like and how did they meet?

Joseph Loconte:

It didn’t go well. I’ve served the different colleges and faculties faculty meetings. They’re in a faculty meeting and they’re arguing over the curriculum. And we won’t get into the weeds here, but they’re just debating what should be taught, what should be emphasized. The older languages, the older literature or more medieval literature, they’re on different sides of this debate. And so they are circling each other like tigers in the wild. But that initial tension and opposition, it turns into friendship. I think a huge step was when Tolkien invites CS Lewis, this probably within a matter of months, I think, to join a reading club. And Brett, the reading club was Icelandic sagas. Only Oxford Dawns would do this, right? They get together to read Icelandic sagas in their original Icelandic and Tolkien invites Louis, and they discover this common love of these epic stories and also a love of language. And that’s the beginning I think, of the friendship in a huge way.

Brett McKay:

So they started off being part of this book club, this book group. When did they start critiquing and workshopping each other’s writing?

Joseph Loconte:

That’s a great question. There’s another turning point in the friendship, and I think this was in around 1931, I think it was just before this Lewis’s conversion, that Tolkien shares with CS Lewis, the story of Baron and Lutheran, the Elvis Princess and the Mortal Man. And he wrote this really during the first World War, modeled on his relationship with his wife Edith. It was the story that Tolkien said was closest to his heart, and he’s got a draft of it and he sends it to CS Lewis to get his feedback. Now you think about that. This is a deeply personal kind of story. Emotionally Tolkien is really invested in it. He sends it to Lewis to see what he’s going to do with it. Does he have any advice? And what he does is so crucial to the relationship. He writes Tolkien back, he says, I’ve never had such a pleasant evening reading a story like this.

I’m paraphrasing now, and I’m going to send you pages of critique. Quibbles will follow. He sends off I think about 10 pages of critique of the story to improve it. And Tolkien will incorporate many of Lewis’s suggestions. But the point here, Brett, is that that’s a moment of vulnerability because authors, being an author myself, I don’t like sending manuscripts that are not done really completed to anybody to read. This is an uncompleted manuscript. He sends it to his friend, it’s close to his heart, and his friend responds beautifully. And if he had not, I think the relationship would’ve collapsed. But instead, it’s a window into both their hearts, and it’s the beginning of what’s going to become a really profoundly important and transformative friendship for both of them.

Brett McKay:

I think it’s a good lesson on friendship. If you want friends, you have to be vulnerable sometimes. Yes. And what made their friendship so unique was that they could both give and receive criticism. And that’s hard to do. And they could talk about everything too, like their writing, their spiritual stuff, intellectual stuff. And as you said, it became a transformative friendship for both of them. Tolkien, he wrote this in his diary talking about Lewis. He said, this friendship with Lewis compensates for much, and besides giving constant pleasure and comfort has done me much good. And something else that brought them together that you talk about in the book was that they started what you call a conspiracy of Don’s at Oxford. What do you mean by that?

Joseph Loconte:

The conspiracy of Dons? Well, there were different things they were doing. They had this little club of they’re going to push back against bad trends in the curriculum. So they have these Dons like-minded Dons who are trying to hold on really to the classical medieval Christian tradition and making sure that that is upfront and center in the curriculum. So that’s part of the conspiracy. But then what that kind of evolves into with Tolkien and Lewis as the anchor is of course the inklings. And these are like-minded Christian authors who decide, look, we’ve got to be engaged in this cultural fight against the modernist movement in literature, which is so dehumanizing, the disintegration of human personality, anti heroic. We’re going to push back against that. So the inklings come together right around in an early 1930s after Lewis’s conversion, and they’re meeting in Lewis’s rooms at Malin College every Thursday night. They move to Friday later on. But every week for something like, I don’t know, 15 years almost without fail, Brett, these ink links with Lewis and Tolkien as the anchor will meet every week to share their latest literary creations, a portion of it, read it out loud, and then to be critiqued by these other authors in the room. Pretty scary stuff if you’re an author.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. And you talk about CS Lewis in a letter to Tolkien, he even wrote, he says, look, the world, they’re not writing the kind of books we like to read, like the inspiring Noble books. And so he says, we’re going to have to write them ourselves.

Joseph Loconte:

That’s right. That’s exactly right. In 1936, this conversation tos, we’re going to have to write them ourselves. So what happens? They have a pact. You could argue this is part of the conspiracy of the Dons to push back against the establishment. They make a pact. Tolkien is supposed to write a time travel story. Lewis is supposed to write a space travel story. Tolkien doesn’t ever finish his time travel story. He starts and doesn’t finish it. But then he’ll publish The Hobbit in 1937 and almost immediately starts writing the Lord of the Rings. Lewis publishes out of the Silent Planet, the first of the Space trilogy. And what that story, what trilogy does, Brett, we can get into it more, is it’s retelling really the story of the fall, the biblical story of the fall. And it’s using this mythic literature and the genre of science fiction to do it. It’s a profound reflection on the nature of evil and the tragedy of the human condition.

Brett McKay:

Let’s talk about The Hobbit. So Tolken finished that first draft in 1933, world War ii. You could start seeing, something’s going to happen here soon with The Hobbit. We typically think of it as a children’s story. Did he write it primarily as a child story or was he trying to do something bigger with it?

Joseph Loconte:

Well, he writes it primarily as a child story because he was telling it to his children. He just loved to read stories to his kids and make up stories and share them with his children. So that really was aimed at children. But because of Tolkiens, just sensitivity, his maturity, his depth as an adult, you read that story and it’s speaking to adults as much as it’s speaking to children. So he had high expectations, let’s put it this way, high expectations for what his children could and should learn. And Lewis is the same way. Even as they’re writing for children, they want to expose them to the realities of this life, the tragedy, the darkness of evil, but also the capacity for individuals to fight against the darkness. They want to introduce him to the problem of dragons, the problem of evil, but also to heroes who know how to slay dragons. So it’s speaking to two audiences at the same time. I think Brett is safe to say.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. And Tolkien said that this idea of battling dragons, battling evil, that can be done by regular people. And I think he even said that he patterned the hobbits after the ordinary working class people he fought with during World War I.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. He literally says in one of his letters that his Sam Gaji is indeed based on the English soldier with whom I served in the first World War and considered so far superior to myself. That’s how he describes it. So one of the most beloved characters in all of modern fiction, the Hobbit is based on the English soldier in a trench.

That’s fascinating, isn’t it? That’s fascinating. But dragons, both these men really saw the dragon as the embodiment of radical evil. There’s a wonderful speech, an address that Tolkien gave in January of 1938 as the storm clouds are gathering in Europe. Brett, the Gathering storm, the totalitarian states, Italian fascism, German Nazism, and of course the Soviet Union. He delivers this talk in 1938. It’s supposed to be a talk to children, young children about dragons. And he gets into some pretty serious stuff about the nature of the dragon, the embodiment of evil. And there’s a line there that I love in this speech. He says, dragons are the final test of heroes, the final test of heroes. We are called to engage against the darkness. And he’s delivering this message to kids. Amazing.

Brett McKay:

So he started the Lord of the Rings in 1937. Then he worked on it sporadically throughout World War ii. Can you see instances in that book you can point to and say, yeah, this was definitely influenced by World War II right here?

Joseph Loconte:

Well, that is a fabulous question, and I’ve dealt with it some in my book and more dissertations need to be written about this. If you think about the Battle of ER fields, for example, I think what’s going on there, this defiance, let me read you a few lines from the Battle of Peller fields, and I’m going to connect it to the war moment. Stern now is ER’s mood and his mind clear again. He let blow the horns to rally all men to his banner that could come hither for he thought to make a great shield wall at the last and stand and fight there on foot till all fell and do deeds of song on the fields of Lenor. If you think about what Britain is doing from 1939, particularly up until about 1942, Britain is alone. Britain is hanging by a thread, an existential thread.

The Battle of Britain, the Blitz on London, all of Europe, Western and central Europe is occupied by the Nazi. The United States is nowhere near to joining this war. The Soviet Union is up to its mischief. France has fallen. They’re alone. And what Winston Churchill does as the Prime Minister is he delivers speeches like that. I have nothing to offer for blood toil, tears and sweat. We will fight them on the beaches. And that rhetoric, that oratory is in the air and justice Churchill is helping to inspire the British people to stand against the darkness of fascism. You have to imagine that that British spirit is also working its way on Tolkien’s imagination as he’s writing out some of these passages in the Lord of the Rings.

Brett McKay:

I don’t know if you came across, I don’t remember reading this in the book, but did you come across any instances where Tolkien or Churchill cross paths, or where Churchill commented on Tolkiens work at all? Cause it seemed like they were kind of like Tolkien and CS Lewis. They were romantics like Churchill.

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, yeah. An appreciation for the great epic hero. They’re all in that place. I have not yet found any example of where the two of them ever met. The closest thing I can think of is when and around 1939 or so, the British government reaches out to Tolkien because they want to give him training to be a codebreaker, a code breaker for the foreign service and to work at Bletchley Park. And he gets several days of training and code breaking because he’s a language guy and they think, Hey, this guy could probably help us. And the end of the day, they won’t need his services. But if he had become a codebreaker, he may well have met Churchill in that context.

Brett McKay:

Well, that’s a good thing to point out about both these men during the war, they write these big epic books, particularly Tolkien, but CS Lewis is very prolific during this time. But this wasn’t their full-time job. They were professors and they had really heavy schedules with that. And then they were also contributing to the war cause Tolkien did that code breaking training, and Lewis did civil defense stuff. He was an air raid warden for the Home Guard.

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, that’s one of the reasons. This is such an encouraging story to me, Brett, and challenging story, because with all these responsibilities and having served as a professor myself, knowing what’s involved in that, if you care about your students, you’re grading papers, you’re going to faculty meetings, you’re doing academic research, you’re doing extra war work as well. So when exactly are they writing these great epic stories that at least initially they’re not getting paid for? Well, they’re stealing away time from other things. They’re writing in the evenings, they’re writing on weekends. And what does that tell us, Brett? It tells us they have to write. There’s something in them. It’s part of their sense of calling. I think as Christian scholars and writers, they can’t not write. It’s part of what they have to do. And I think also their sense that their own culture, their civilization needs these stories Right now at this moment of cultural crisis, the language that Winston Churchill used in one of his speeches after the disastrous Munich Pact, giving Hitler Czechoslovakia, effectively, Churchill talks about the need to recover Marshall Vigor moral strength and Marshall vigor. Well, there’s a political element to that, but there’s a cultural element, and I think these guys sensed Britain. It needs stories of heroism, of valor, of sacrifice for a noble cause at this moment of existential crisis.

Brett McKay:

So you mentioned the inklings, the stated purpose was, okay, we’re going to get together, critique each other’s work writing. But it sounds like a lot of the meetings, it started off like that, but then it would just kind of wander or they’d just start discussing other stuff. When did they start going beyond their stated purpose? What kind of things did they discuss there?

Joseph Loconte:

We don’t really have any transcribed notes from this. We can only speculate a little bit from the letters from Tolkien and Lewis. There’s one letter from Lewis describing the inklings to a friend. He says, we gather the talk about literature, but always we talk about something better. I love that phrase, Brett, and you just wonder what it was these guys were talking about, I suspect, because most of them, members of the inklings had served in the First World War, their combat veterans. And I think there was some of that discussion about the Great War and what came out of that. So I think that’s some of it. They also had just a wonderful sense of humor. I spoke to various people, interviewed here for the book, and Owen Barfield was one of the members of the inklings and his grandson also named Owen Barfield, who’s done a lot of thinking about the inklings shared with me. These guys just, yeah, they loved a good pint of beer and they had a great sense of humor. So who knows what they were talking about in some of those sessions, but boy, do have been a fly on the wall.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. Lewis even said about that idea of laughter and humor. He said, there’s no sound I like better than adult male. Laughter.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. Yes. The chapter in his wonderful book, the Four Loves the chapter on Friendship, which I think is one of the most magnificent pieces of writings, reflections on male friendship that you’re ever going to find. It is drawn from his experience with the inklings and the idea that we find ourselves amongst our betters. We don’t deserve to be in this amazing circle of people and with our drinks on our elbows and the fire is blazing and something opens up in our minds, something even beyond the walls of this world. And he goes on to just talk about what an amazing gift it is. Who could have deserved this kind of fellowship that’s coming out of the inklings that’s in the chapter in the Four Loves. But of course, the theme of Friendship, Brett, it is central if you think about it to the Lord of the Rings and to the Chronicles and Narnia. And that is not accidental, the intense camaraderie that these men felt when they fought in the First World War with their comrades. I think they wanted to recapture something like that. And so they were always forming these reading groups. And then the inklings became the great haven of sanity, a beachhead of resistance, I like to call it, against the cultural darkness and madness and rage of the day.

Brett McKay:

And I was impressed. They kept it up even during the darkest moments of World War ii. I mean, they could have said, look, there’s some bigger more important things going on. London’s getting bombed every night. Do we really need to get together in a writing group and drink beer? But they’re like, no, we have to do that.

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, I think that’s right. It’s like they felt that it was essential probably for them in their own emotional, intellectual, spiritual lives, but I think they thought there’s something necessary here in the writing that we’re going to do. They couldn’t have possibly imagined the impact that their writing was going to have. But let me read you a few lines from one of the students. It speaks to your point here, Brett, one of the students of Tolkien and Louis describing the impact that these men had on her generation as they’re teaching in the classroom, as they’re going back to these great classic works, a Homer, Virgil, Dante, Milton, the need to reintroduce these concepts in the modern era for the modern mind. Here’s a few lines from Helen Wheeler. She says this, what this meant for my generation of English language and literature undergraduates was what happened in the Great Books was of equal significance to what happened in life.

Indeed, they were the same. Now, think about that. What a profound thing to say from this young woman. What happened in the Great Books was of equal significance to what happened in real life. In other words, the Great books are great books because they embody the human condition. They teach us great truths about human life and human experience, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and those ideals, the highest ideals that are expressed in those great books. They were needed at that moment of crisis. That’s what I think Helen Wheeler is understanding. We needed to be reminded of these incredible struggles and virtues at this moment of existential crisis.

Brett McKay:

Another quote that stands out to me from CS Lewis talking about why you should just keep doing normal things when everything else around you just seems like it’s going crazy. This is shortly after the atomic bomb was dropped, and everyone’s kind of freaking out about nuclear apocalypse. CS Lewis said this, if we are going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes, find us doing sensible and human things, praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts, not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. Wow, that’s a beautiful line. And it was so consistent in his life, Brett, and he lived that way. And the only way we can understand his incredible productivity, particularly during the Second World War, which I’m trying to emphasize in the book, is the sense of urgency. It’s not fatalism, but it is a sense of urgency. They’ve got to get on with their callings in the worst possible circumstances. And you’re probably familiar, Brett, with that incredible sermon that he delivered learning in wartime. This is within a few weeks after Germany invades Poland and the beginning of the Second World War, and they’re expecting a German invasion at any moment. And he speaks to these very anxious undergraduates in church. And learning in wartime has a very similar theme that if we wait for the conditions to be ideal before we get down to our work, we’ll never get to it. Conditions are never ideal. We got to do our best and leave the results to God. It’s a profound reflection on calling on Christian calling echoed in the passage you read as well, Brett.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, I think that’s good advice for us now, because a lot of people are anxious these days. They kind of put their life on hold because they feel stymied by uncertainty. But you can’t let that defeat you. You have to keep getting on with life. You have to keep doing those human things. You have to keep doing those things you feel called to.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. And also think about this for Lewis, he’s had this profound sense of the need to communicate the truths of Christianity to as broad an audience as possible. So when he’s approached by the religious programming director at the BBC, and they ask him, look, give us an explanation and a defense of Christianity in a series of radio broadcasts. We’ll give you 15 minutes at a time. Lewis doesn’t even listen to the radio. He’s completely out of his comfort zone. He’s an academic, right? He’s an egghead. He has no necessary skill writing for radio, but he agrees. And so he travels down from Oxford by train into London, and that was not without risk. The city still being bombed, the BBC had been bombed. And he starts delivering these incredible addresses, unpacking the meaning and significance of the Christian faith. And do you know the first line in the first broadcast, which became the first line in mere Christianity, the broadcast became the book Mere Christianity, but the opening line, you know what it was, Brett?

What was it? Everyone has heard people quarreling. Everyone has heard people quarreling. Now, why does he start there In Anglican, England in 1941, when people quarrel Brett, they’re arguing over a standard of behavior that the other guy has violated. You took something that didn’t belong to you, you cut me off in line. That wasn’t fair. That wasn’t right. We’re always appealing to a standard outside of ourselves, and we violate those standards ourselves. Lewis’s point is that is the clue to the meaning of the universe. This is the moral law that we all know, a moral law that presses down upon us that we can’t escape, that we know we ought to obey, and yet we violate it. That’s the clue to the meaning of the universe. So what is he doing? He’s reintroducing moral truth and a moral law at a time when moral absolutes and the moral disintegration of Western civilization, it’s all up in the air. It’s all up for grabs right now, it seems, Brett. But he is pushing back as best he can. So he starts there with the moral law. He will take the audience ultimately to Jesus as the great Savior, but he doesn’t start there. He starts with the universal moral law.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, he called it the Dao. The Dao. Yes. Yeah. Well, so you mentioned speaking of CS Lewis and how the war influenced these guys works that we wouldn’t have the line, the witch and the wardrobe if it weren’t for the London Blitz. So tell us about that. What was Lewis’s connection to the evacuees during the London Blitz?

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, I mean, within days of the evacuation, four girls show up in his house. He lives there with his brother Warney and Mrs. Moore that he’s taking care of. And these four girls come into the home and immediately his life is turned upside down. And he writes to his friend’s sister Penelope and says, I never paid much attention to children, don’t really even like them. But now the war has brought them to me. And not only do they have a profound influence on Lewis, I mean, think about it. He will then go on to write one of the most beloved series of children’s books that has ever been produced. A confirmed bachelor who doesn’t like the company of children, learns to somehow get into their world and to empathize with them and to help them to understand here’s what it means to be a good and decent and virtuous person, even a person of faith. That’s a transformation in Lewis’ life. And that ability to communicate to children about children, to get into their emotional worlds. That would not have happened without the Blitz because children are not just showing up in the first weeks. They’re staying with them for weeks at a time, and then another batch of children would come in when the first batch is ready to go. It’s amazing.

Brett McKay:

So that people talk about the difference between Tolkien and Lewis and how they approach using myth fantasy stories to teach virtue. Lewis is a little bit on the nose about it. You can read the Chronicles and Narnia and like, okay, Aslan, that’s Jesus obviously. Tolkien was a little bit more subtle about his symbolism in his work.

Joseph Loconte:

Much more. Brett, and I think I can speculate a bit at the reasons for this. Part of it I think was Tolkien had been a Catholic for really all of his adult life. There wasn’t a dramatic conversion to Catholicism for him. And he was a profoundly serious believing Catholic. And it just shaped him in so many ways, his outlook, it’s embedded in his outlook. CS Lewis has a dramatic conversion from atheism into Christianity. So there’s more of the apologist, maybe not so much the evangelist, or you could use that word, but certainly the defender of the faith, the man who wants to communicate this truth because he knows what it’s like to be in the darkness. It’s very vivid to him passing from that darkness into the light of the gospel. And so I think Lewis was more willing and ready to use imagery that would more clearly suggest a Christian truths.

Christian symbolism and Tolkien didn’t feel the need to do that, but Lewis did, I think, because of his conversion experience. That’s a little bit of speculation there, but I think it’s probably right now, I will say this Tolkien, when he published the Lord of the Rings, it comes out in the 1950s finally. And as the atomic bomb is out and about, as we say, and a lot of people assume that the ring is just an allegory. The whole thing is an allegory for a warning against the atomic bomb, and Tolkien sets them right. He says, of course, my story is not an allegory of atomic power, but of power, exerted for domination. Power exerted for domination. That is one of the central themes, of course, in the Lord of the Rings, if you go to the Council of Elron, it is a morally complex, rich, thick discussion about the nature of power and the corrupting influence of the temptation to power. And that is deeply embedded, I would argue, in Tolkien’s Catholic Christian faith.

Brett McKay:

So another thing that Tolkien worked on during World War II besides the Lord of the Rings, this was for his family, for his children, is these Father Christmas stories. And you could see World War II pop up in these Father Christmas stories. Tell us about that. And I think these are available, these are published now. I think you can buy these now and read these stories.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. Yeah. There’s an entire collection. I think his granddaughter, one of his granddaughters, had pulled this together. It’s a lovely collection illustrated Tolkien would early on when he had his children, he wrote these Christmas letters, father Christmas and illustrated them, put them in the mailbox, and the kids are thinking they’re getting a letter from Father Christmas, and they’re very whimsical throughout the 1920s, these whimsical stories of Father Christmas and the polar bear and their mischievous adventures and all this. And then they take a turn, even as early as 1933, the year that Hitler comes to power, they take a turn where the appearance of goblins and the goblins, of course, these are wicked creatures. They’ll have a role to play in the Lord of the Rings, but they’re these dark, wicked creatures now entering the scene of Father Christmas. And so by the time you get to the letters, I think from 1941, Christmas 1941, Tolkien writes to his daughter, Priscilla, the youngest father, Christmas again. And he’s talking about how there’s been incredible battle and many people have been killed, and half the world is no longer in the right place because so many people have been displaced. And Father Christmas can’t deliver presents the way he used to because half the world is in the wrong place. Well, he’s describing exactly what has been happening, of course, in Europe with the mass evacuations, the evacuees by the millions. So he can’t escape the war, even in a Father Christmas letter to his daughter, Priscilla. Wow.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. And so we’ve talked about some examples of how World War II was influencing Tolkiens and Lewis’ work. So Tolkien, he wrote a lot of the Lord of the Rings during the war. I mean, he was influenced by this epic clash of good and evil and the heroism that was called upon during the war. And then the first in that Lord of the Rings series would be published in the 1950s.

And then you got CS Lewis, he’s doing his apologetics, his lectures, his broadcast, the B BBC asked him to do for morale. He’s doing that during the war. And those lectures and those broadcasts would eventually become mere Christianity. And that was published in the 1950s. And then during this time, Lewis is also writing the Chronicles of Narnia, and he was inspired by the kids who came to live with him during the Blitz. So these works that both men were famous for in the post-war period, the foundations for them were really laid during World War II. And what I think is interesting about these guys, when you talk about them, they both have firsthand experience with war, and they were influenced by it in their creative work, but they were also really appalled by it.

Tolkien talks about not just the human destruction, but the environmental destruction. I think that’s something that Tolkien really focuses on and is overlooked in his work. He’s really appalled by the destruction that war does to our natural environment.

Joseph Loconte:

Exactly right.

Brett McKay:

So they saw war firsthand, but they still thought that violence was sometimes necessary to defend the good and the true. How do they walk that tension in their work?

Joseph Loconte:

Boy, that is a fabulous question, Brett, because they are not holy warriors. There’s no triumphalism in their works. Their heroes are reluctant heroes quite often, and they’re filled with anxiety and self-doubt. Bilbo Baggins is a modern hero, isn’t he? In some ways? Does he help the company or does he find a way of escape? And again, it’s not an accident that Lewis chooses children as the protagonist and includes a mouse named Rey Cheap. So the whole concept of the heroic, they are reinventing as well. It’s, boy, what can we say there, Brett? It’s so counter-cultural what they’re doing that they want to hang on to this concept of the heroic, but they know that triumphalism is just, it’s not tenable. No one’s going to buy this. And in their own experience, they can’t either from their own experience in the First World War, and I think from their religious perspective.

So there’s a realism about human frailty, but there’s also a realism about the nature of evil and the existence of radical evil and the idea of a just war. Even though though Will’s words are not used in their writings, they really are representing the just war tradition. In other words, the use of lethal force to protect the innocent from great harm. That is one of the key themes, isn’t it, in both their works. And I think having a ringside seat, as they did in Great Britain from 1939 to 1945, pacifism and neutrality was simply not an option because they could see what was happening to those nations that supposedly claim neutrality and then were overrun by the Nazis within a matter of months.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, that’s a tough tension to walk, to find war appalling, but also feel that sometimes it’s necessary.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. And I think it really is expressed in the characters, in their reluctance to engage in this great battle. But then the conscience, they can’t escape their conscience and the need of the hour. And so Aslan in the Chronicles of Narnia, he’s got these children, he calls these children, summons them into a battle. He doesn’t leave them on their own, but he summons them into this battle. And as you read the text, this is what’s so profoundly striking about the Chronicles and Arnie, the battle scenes, they’re vivid. They’re not inappropriate for young people necessarily, but they’re vivid. It’s what it would’ve been like to be in a hand to hand kind of combat. And Lewis wants to give that realism and the anxiety and the struggle and the fear, all of that is mixed in their writings. Tolkien and Lewis, both. They don’t shy away from the horror of combat one bit, and yet they want to insist that wait a minute, evil has to be challenged. We see that in Beowulf. We see it in the Aeneid. We see it in the great works of the classical Christian tradition.

Brett McKay:

So both these men, Tolkien and CS Lewis, they basically laid the groundwork for fantasy novels in the 20th and 21st century.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes.

Brett McKay:

But how did their wartime experiences, both World War I and World War ii, how did that make their fantasy stories different from the modern fantasy novels that kids might be reading today?

Joseph Loconte:

Yeah, that is a fabulous question. I mean, one of the criticisms that you sometimes hear about these guys is that they were writing escapist literature. If it’s fantasy, it must be escapist, escape, the difficult problems and challenges of life. And what Tolkien, and Lewis both said in different ways, both in their writings and even in some of their letters, this isn’t escapism. This is the opposite of escapism. Because what these stories do is they expose the darkness of the human condition, and they point us toward the virtues, the values and ideals that are required to meet the darkness that we encounter in life. And that is not escapism. I’ll give you a personal example of this, Brett. I didn’t start reading the Lord of the Rings until I was in my forties. I was working on my doctoral dissertation on John Locke studying in the UK there in London, reading Locke during the day, and then reading Tolkien at night.

And in English Pub, it doesn’t get any better than that, right? So here I am in my mid forties and I’m reading the Lord of the Rings for the first time, and I’m finding myself morally invigorated, invigorated, wanting to take on the challenges of the day of my life with a new kind of courage and strength and resilience. If you’re thinking about the ideas of virtue and honesty and sacrifice for a noble cause. Well, this is not escapism. This is what makes life meaningful. This speaks to our deepest aspirations as men and women, as people with a soul. And so it’s the opposite of escapism, and I think that’s part of what they’re doing in an amazing time. When on the one hand there might’ve been a kind of militarism, utopianism on one side or just defeatism, we can’t face this horror, and they’re saying, no, there’s this middle way. There’s this middle way. It’s a kind of Christian realism about life and how to meet it.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, I think one thing you wrote in the book, a lot of modern fantasy novels today, they’re about self-discovery, but the novels that Tolkien and Lewis wrote, they’re more about you have to just rise up to the occasion so you can protect others and lift up others.

Joseph Loconte:

Yes. That’s where, again, Brett, I want to emphasize this. They’re combining the best of the classical world, those ancient myths, a Greek Roman mythology, the medieval world, Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table, Beowulf, they’re building on that foundation, but then they are very deliberately giving it a Christian emphasis, imbuing it with Christian values, so that what these heroes want is not personal glory. They are willing to sacrifice for this greater cause. So think about the whole story of the ring itself. The hobbits are not on a quest to gain something of great value, some great treasure chest. The whole point of the quest is to destroy it, to destroy the ring of power. In other words, renunciation. And if you think about the time period, the 1940s, the second World War, when the combatants on both sides are trying to acquire weapons of mass destruction, that’s the mood of the hour. And here’s Tolkien writing a story about renunciation sacrifice for others, humility. Now that’s that’s going against the establishment in a huge way.

Brett McKay:

So these books were written in a time that’s pretty different from ours in 2025, but their stories still resonate with audiences today. Why do you think that is?

Joseph Loconte:

That is a wonderful question. I’m still mulling that in my head because here we are talking about them 80 plus years later. I think there’s several reasons. There’s not a single answer to this, Brett, but I think there’s several reasons. Let me quote you from a line that Lewis wrote. I think it helps to give an answer maybe after Tolkien completed the Lord of the Rings, Lewis has it now in manuscript form, and he writes to Tolkien and he tells him how delighted he is to have it. He’ll be going to read it and reread it, and then he says this to Tolkien in the letter about the Lord of the Rings, the impact of it. So much of your whole life, so much of our joint life, so much of the war, so much that seemed to be slipping away without a trace into the past is now in a sort made permanent.

I think what Lewis is saying that somehow what Tolkien has done in the Lord of the Rings, he’s captured their common journey through life with all of its struggles and its joys. He’s captured some of that. He’s captured the war experience, and it’s hidden in the pages of the Lord of the Rings. So it’s a profoundly human story, profoundly human. It’s so accessible. And at the same time, it also speaks to these universal transcendent themes, and that’s what they do in the best of their works. They’re accessible. Their characters are like us. They’re not the superheroes that we create now in Marvel comics. They’re hobbits. It’s a mouse named Repe Cheap. It’s children in a Wardrobe. They’re utterly accessible, but they’re engaged in a real struggle in the forces of light, the forces of darkness, and there’s something profoundly moving and transcendent about their works. It just speaks across cultures, across generations, doesn’t it?

Brett McKay:

Well, Joseph, this has been a great conversation. Where could people go to learn more about the book in your work?

Joseph Loconte:

Well go to my website. That’d be the best place to go. www.josephloconte.com. You’ll see where you can buy the book. You’ll see also my YouTube history channel history, and the Human Story, and we’re releasing some videos on Tolkien and Lewis and other things that we’re working on. So love to have you check out the site.

Brett McKay:

Fantastic. Well, Joseph Loconte, thanks for your time. It’s been a pleasure.

Joseph Loconte:

Thank you, Brett. So good being with you.

Brett McKay:

My guest today was Joseph Loconte. He’s the author of the book, The War for Middle-earth. It’s available on amazon.com and bookstores everywhere. You can find more information about his work at his website, josephloconte.com. Also, check out our show notes at aom.is/warformiddleearth where you’ll find links to resources where you can delve deeper into this topic. 

Well that wraps up another edition of the AoM podcast. Make sure to check out our website at artofmanliness.com. And while you’re there, sign up for our free Art of Manliness newsletter. We have a daily option and a weekly option. It’s the best way to stay on top of what’s going on at Art of Manliness. 

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The Dale Carnegie Habit That Will Instantly Improve Your Relationships https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/dale-carnegie-sincere-appreciation/ Thu, 13 Nov 2025 16:04:28 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191557 One of the most neglected virtues of our daily existence is appreciation. —Dale Carnegie  My career has mostly played out in roles that don’t involve directly managing other people. In late 2021, though, I spent a handful of months in a management role. That short amount of time totally changed my view of a manager’s […]

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Two men in business attire shake hands and smile while standing outside near a glass building, showcasing how positive habits can help improve relationships—an approach inspired by Dale Carnegie’s timeless principles.

One of the most neglected virtues of our daily existence is appreciation. —Dale Carnegie 

My career has mostly played out in roles that don’t involve directly managing other people. In late 2021, though, I spent a handful of months in a management role. That short amount of time totally changed my view of a manager’s job, as well as human nature and relationships in general. 

I expected the role to be more business-focused and even scientific in nature. Management content would have you believe that if you follow a certain set of predictable steps, measure the right “KPIs,” and give performance feedback based on a standardized rubric, you’ll be all set. 

The reality, as always, is a bit more nuanced. During my time managing a small team, it was far more about wrangling personalities and aligning expectations than anything else. Above all, though, I quickly realized that what folks mostly want and need is a cheerleader. They want someone to notice their effort and encourage them when the going gets tough. 

As William James once wrote, “The deepest principle in human nature is the craving to be appreciated.” 

It’s not to be managed to a set of desired ends, but appreciated

Dale Carnegie, perhaps the most influential self-improvement author of all-time, wholeheartedly agreed with James’ wisdom and made it one of the core principles in How to Win Friends and Influence People

Give honest and sincere appreciation. 

He knew that people primarily wanted to feel seen, valued, and respected — and that genuine appreciation is one of the fastest ways to build better relationships at work, at home, and everywhere in between.

The Nourishment of Sincere Appreciation

We nourish the bodies of our children and friends and employees, but how seldom do we nourish their self-esteem? We provide them with roast beef and potatoes to build energy, but we neglect to give them kind words of appreciation that would sing in their memories for years like the music of the morning stars. —Dale Carnegie 

The craving for appreciation is not merely about vanity. Human beings are wired for connection; we need it and thrive on it. In the same way our bodies need food and drink in order to function properly, our spirits need kinship. Giving appreciation is one of the most potent ways we can nourish the people around us. So when someone goes out of their way to tell you, “I noticed what you did, and it mattered,” it hits at the core of what makes us human and fills our emotional tank like nothing else. 

At work, appreciation boosts motivation more effectively than bonuses. In marriage, it fills the relationship bank account. For kids, it builds confidence faster than correction ever could.

Flattery vs. Appreciation

On the flip side of the appreciation coin, mere flattery feels disingenuous and gross. Carnegie drew a hard line between the two:

The difference between appreciation and flattery? That is simple. One is sincere and the other insincere. One comes from the heart out; the other from the teeth out. One is unselfish; the other selfish. One is universally admired; the other universally condemned.

Flattery is a manipulative type of praise that tries to get something in return. Appreciation, on the other hand, is grounded in sincerity. 

Fortunately, humans are generally pretty good at intrinsically noticing the difference between the two. We have a way of feeling it. It’s not easy to fake sincerity or earnestness, which is why certain people — or the certain things that some people say — just hit us as being off

True appreciation needs to come from a sincere and honest place or it simply won’t work.    

Making Appreciation a Daily Habit

Every morning, perhaps as part of your journaling or meditation routine, think about someone in your life that you can show your gratitude towards. Friends, coworkers, family members, even your rolodex of loose connections is fine. There isn’t anybody who would respond negatively to a bit of appreciation, even if it’s been a while.  

  1. Make It Easy. No need to schedule phone calls or write handwritten letters (unless you want to); a quick email or text message is totally fine, as long as it’s sincere. 
  2. Be specific. Generic compliments don’t land. Tell people exactly what you appreciated and why it mattered to you. 
  3. Notice effort, not just results. In a society where ghosting of all kinds is commonplace, simply showing up and giving effort is commendable. The ol’ college try really does matter and deserves to be recognized. 
  4. Don’t ignore what’s around you every day. Make a special effort to notice things around the house and express appreciation to your partner and kids. As Dale Carnegie said, “We often take our spouses so much for granted that we never let them know we appreciate them.” 

A Virtuous Cycle 

Giving honest and sincere appreciation doesn’t just strengthen relationships, it improves you too. When you make a habit of noticing what’s good in others, you start noticing more good in the wider world. You complain less. You lead better. 

Regularly offering sincere and honest appreciation takes but thirty seconds, costs nothing, and can make a world of difference. 

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The Choice of Hercules https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/manly-lessons/manvotional-the-choice-of-hercules/ Tue, 04 Nov 2025 14:00:16 +0000 http://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=46111 Note: This week’s episode of the podcast referenced an ancient story: “The Choice of Hercules.” If you’ve never read it, it’s really worth doing so. The story was set down by Xenophon (430–354 B.C. ), who was an ancient Greek historian and student of the philosopher Socrates. His Memorabilia is a collection of Socratic dialogues […]

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Note: This week’s episode of the podcast referenced an ancient story: “The Choice of Hercules.” If you’ve never read it, it’s really worth doing so.

The story was set down by Xenophon (430–354 B.C. ), who was an ancient Greek historian and student of the philosopher Socrates. His Memorabilia is a collection of Socratic dialogues which purports to record the defense Socrates made for himself during his trial before the Athenians. While arguing against indolence and for the beneficial effects of labor, Socrates retells “The Choice of Hercules,” a fable that originated with the philosopher Prodicus.

This story was popular throughout the eighteenth century and was frequently studied by young men and depicted by artists. John Adams used it to guide his life and wished to make an illustration of the tale the design for the Great Seal of the new nation. The allegory’s power lies in its ability to convey a profound truth: that there can be no sweet without the bitter, no growth and no true happiness without challenge, effort, and virtue.


The Choice of Hercules

From the Memorabilia

By Xenophon, c. 371 B.C.

When Hercules was in that part of his youth in which it was natural for him to consider what course of life he ought to pursue, he one day retired into a desert, where the silence and solitude of the place very much favored his meditations.

As he was musing on his present condition, and very much perplexed in himself, on the state of life he should choose, he saw two women of a larger stature than ordinary, approaching towards him. One of them had a very noble air, and graceful deportment; her beauty was natural and easy, her person clean and unspotted, her motions and behavior full of modesty, and her raiment was white as snow. The other wanted all the native beauty and proportion of the former; her person was swelled, by luxury and ease, to a size quite disproportioned and uncomely. She had painted her complexion, that it might seem fairer and more ruddy than it really was, and endeavored to appear more graceful than ordinary in her bearing, by a mixture of affectation in all her gestures. She cast her eyes frequently upon herself, then turned them on those that were present, to see whether any one regarded her, and now and then looked on the figure she made in her own shadow.

As they drew nearer, the former continued the same composed pace, while the latter, striving to get before her, ran up to Hercules, and addressed herself to him:

“My dear Hercules,” says she, “I find you are very much divided in your thoughts, upon the way of life that you ought to choose; be my friend, and follow me; I will lead you into the possession of pleasure, and out of the reach of pain, and remove you from all the noise and disquietude of business. The affairs of either peace or war, shall have no power to disturb you. Your whole employment shall be to make your life easy, and to entertain every sense with its proper gratifications. Sumptuous tables, beds of roses, clouds of perfumes, concerts of music, crowds of beauties, are all in readiness to receive you. Come along with me into this region of delights, this world of pleasure, and bid farewell forever, to care, to pain, to business.”

Hercules, hearing the lady talk after this manner, desired to know her name; to which she answered, “My friends, and those who are well acquainted with me, call me Happiness; but my enemies, and those who would injure my reputation, have given me the name of Pleasure.”

By this time the other lady came up, who addressed herself to the young hero in a very different manner.

“Hercules,” says she, “I offer myself to you, because I know you are descended from the gods, and give proofs of that descent by your love to virtue, and application to the studies proper for your age. This makes me hope you will gain, both for yourself and me, an immortal reputation. But, before I invite you into my society and friendship, I will be open and sincere with you, and must lay down this, as an established truth, that there is nothing truly valuable which can be purchased without pains and labor. The gods have set a price upon every real and noble pleasure. If you would gain the favor of the Deity, you must be at the pains of worshiping him: if the friendship of good men, you must study to oblige them: if you would be honored by your country, you must take care to serve it. In short, if you would be eminent in war or peace, you must become master of all the qualifications that can make you so. These are the only terms and conditions upon which I can propose happiness.”

The goddess of Pleasure here broke in upon her discourse: “You see,” said she, “Hercules, by her own confession, the way to her pleasures is long and difficult; whereas, that which I propose is short and easy.” “Alas!” said the other lady, whose visage glowed with passion, made up of scorn and pity, “what are the pleasures you propose? To eat before you are hungry, drink before you are athirst, sleep before you are tired; to gratify your appetites before they are raised. You never heard the most delicious music, which is the praise of one’s own self; nor saw the most beautiful object, which is the work of one’s own hands. Your votaries pass away their youth in a dream of mistaken pleasures, while they are hoarding up anguish, torment, and remorse for old age.”

“As for me, I am the friend of gods and of good men, an agreeable companion to the artisan, a household guardian to the fathers of families, a patron and protector of servants, an associate in all true and generous friendships. The banquets of my votaries are never costly, but always delicious; for none eat and drink at them, who are not invited by hunger and thirst. Their slumbers are sound, and their wakings cheerful. My young men have the pleasure of hearing themselves praised by those who are in years; and those who are in years, of being honored by those who are young. In a word, my followers are favored by the gods, beloved by their acquaintance, esteemed by their country, and after the close of their labors, honored by posterity.”

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7 Lessons From Seven Samurai https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/manly-lessons/seven-samurai/ Mon, 03 Nov 2025 19:22:12 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191465 One of my goals this year has been to become a cinephile, so I’ve been working my way through some of the classics that have influenced generations of filmmakers. Recently, I finally got around to watching Seven Samurai. Akira Kurosawa’s 1954 masterpiece has been on my list for a long time. It’s the film that […]

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One of my goals this year has been to become a cinephile, so I’ve been working my way through some of the classics that have influenced generations of filmmakers. Recently, I finally got around to watching Seven Samurai.

Akira Kurosawa’s 1954 masterpiece has been on my list for a long time. It’s the film that inspired The Magnificent Seven and influenced everything from Star Wars to A Bug’s Life. But even though it’s been imitated countless times, the original still hits the hardest.

The story’s simple: a poor farming village in 16th-century Japan is being terrorized by bandits who plan to return after harvest to steal the villagers’ crops. Desperate and outmatched, the farmers decide to hire a small band of samurai to defend them. They find seven — each with his own personality, flaws, and strengths — and together they train the villagers, fortify the town, and prepare for the inevitable assault.

On the surface, Seven Samurai is an action film about a ragtag group of warriors facing impossible odds. But underneath, it’s a meditation on leadership, honor, humility, and what it means to live by a code.

If you’ve read our earlier piece on the Bushido code, you’ll recognize many of its virtues woven throughout the film. Kurosawa shows what the code looks like in practice.

It’s been a month since I watched the movie, and I’m still thinking about it. But I haven’t been thinking about the action scenes. I’ve been thinking about the life lessons I gleaned from the film.

Here are seven lessons I took away from Seven Samurai:

1. Lead With Humility and Serve Others

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The first samurai we meet, Kambei Shimada, will lead the group of samurai defenders and shows what real leadership looks like before he ever picks up a sword. In one of the film’s opening scenes, a child has been kidnapped and taken hostage in a hut. The kidnapper is threatening to kill the child. Instead of going in with guns, I mean swords, a-blazing, Kambei shaves off his topknot — symbol of status and pride for a samurai — to disguise himself as a monk to rescue the child. He didn’t ask anything in return for his services and walked out of the village like a boss.

Throughout the rest of the film, you’ll see him rubbing his head where his topknot used to be. I reckon it was a reminder to him that sometimes to live the Bushido code fully means giving up the outward trappings of prestige.

That moment rescuing the child sets the tone for everything else Kambei does in the story. He leads not by asserting dominance, but by accepting responsibility and serving others. When he recruits the rest of the team, they follow him out of respect for his example, not his rank. He earns their trust through his humility.

2. Sweat More in Preparation, Bleed Less in Battle

Once Kambei agrees to defend the village, the samurai don’t rush into heroics. They spend most of the film preparing — studying the terrain, training the farmers, fortifying walls, digging moats, and mapping out every approach the bandits might take. The villagers think the samurai are just standing around, but Kambei knows what Sun Tzu wrote centuries earlier: Victorious warriors win first and then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”

When the attack finally comes, the outcome feels inevitable. The bandits charge straight into the traps that the samurai had laid days earlier. Their premeditated preparation beats the enemy’s in-the-moment berserkery.

While we like to think of courage as spontaneous — as a flash of bravery that arises when danger appears — the foundation of bravery is built in advance. The calm you can call up in a crisis will manifest in direct proportion to your readiness to face the challenge.

3. Be a Quiet Professional

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My favorite character in the film is Kyūzō. The guy is a certified badass. He barely speaks throughout the movie, but he communicates through his actions. He’s a master at his craft with the sword. His effort looks effortless (the art of wu wei!). When a boastful samurai challenges him to a duel, Kyūzō wins with a single strike, then walks away without gloating.

One character described Kyūzō thusly:

He has the real samurai spirit. He is totally fearless. Yet, at the same time, he is gentle and modest — look how he acted after we went and got that gun. And how he went too — just as though he were going up into the hills to look for mushrooms.

We live in an age that rewards noise over skill. Kyūzō teaches us that there’s power in being a quiet professional. Real mastery is self-evident; when you’re truly good at what you do, you no longer have to announce it.

4. When You Are Strong, I Am Strong

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There’s an aphorism in Latin that I love: vales, valeo.

When you are strong, I am strong.

While the seven samurai came from a different culture than the Roman centurions, they embodied this universal principle of teamwork and camaraderie.

The seven samurai come from different backgrounds. Each one has a distinct temperament and personality. One is a war-weary veteran, another a prankster, another a naïve young apprentice. They argue, joke, and occasionally butt heads. But when the bandits attack, they fight as one.

Heihachi, the humble woodchopping samurai, makes a banner for this ragtag group. It consists of six circles and one triangle. The triangle represents the non-samurai, Kikuchiyo ; the six circles represent the actual samurai on the team. It was a symbol of their unity.

You can’t win life’s battles alone. The trick is finding the right men to stand beside you and being the kind of man they can count on.

And what’s interesting is that as you make others strong, you make yourself strong. As Kambei puts it, “By protecting others, you save yourself. If you only think of yourself, you’ll only destroy yourself.”

Vales, valeo.

5. Honor Is Earned

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Kikuchiyo, the film’s comic relief and erratic trickster, is a fraud. He carries a fake samurai pedigree, hiding the fact that he’s the son of lowly farmers — the very people the samurai are hired to protect.

But he desperately wants to be a samurai. He wants to prove himself worthy of honor in a world that says he can’t have it. Kambei sees the unbridled thumos in Kikuchiyo and, instead of rejecting him for not being a true samurai, brings him into his fold to help direct that energy toward something bigger than himself. By the end, Kikuchiyo earns his spurs, so to speak, by living the code of the samurai. He dies defending the village, becoming the samurai he so desperately wanted to be. Rather than letting his past define his life, he creates his legacy through his noble actions.

6. Keep Your Sense of Humor (Especially Under Strain)

One of the things you’ll notice throughout the film is that even in the most stressful moments, the samurai are laughing. Humor was an important part of maintaining morale.

Heihachi, the woodchopping samurai, is typically the source of that laughter. He isn’t the strongest fighter, but he’s indispensable. When everyone is grim-faced and exhausted, he cracks a joke or hums a tune to boost everyone’s spirits.

When you’re staring down impossible odds, a little levity can save your sanity. Nietzsche famously said that the spirit of gravity, of taking things too seriously, can hobble your ability to act nobly. Strength without levity is fragile and stiff. Humor makes you more flexible. Laughter elevates.

7. Live for Honor and Purpose, Not for Reward

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At the film’s end, though the villagers are safe, four samurai have fallen. Kambei looks at their graves and says quietly, “This is the nature of our trade. We always lose.”

The samurai fought not for glory but for honor. They were tragic heroes. They fought even when they knew they’d inevitably incur casualties.

In a world that measures everything by return on investment, Seven Samurai shows us that some things are worth doing simply because it’s the right thing to do.

Final Reflections

Weeks after seeing this film, I still catch myself thinking about Kambei rubbing his shaved head or Kyūzō silently taking care of business. And it makes me want to be more disciplined, more humble, more useful.

I can see why Kurosawa’s story has been copied so many times. It’s about sacrifice, teamwork, and redemption. The samurai fight and die for people who can’t pay them or do anything else for them. They do good because it is good. It’s an ennobling film.

So if you haven’t seen Seven Samurai, make time for it. It’s long and slow by modern standards, but absolutely worth it. You’ll walk away wanting to be a better man.

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50 Powerful and Thought-Provoking Quotes About Death https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/quotes-about-death/ Wed, 29 Oct 2025 15:08:40 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191304 Halloween is the one time of year when death takes center stage in the West. Skeletons hang from porches, skulls grin from mantelpieces, and giant grim reapers show up in the seasonal aisle at Home Depot. For a few weeks, the thing we spend the rest of the year avoiding becomes incredibly visible. It’s a […]

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Halloween is the one time of year when death takes center stage in the West. Skeletons hang from porches, skulls grin from mantelpieces, and giant grim reapers show up in the seasonal aisle at Home Depot. For a few weeks, the thing we spend the rest of the year avoiding becomes incredibly visible.

It’s a good time to practice a little memento mori — to remember that we’re all going to die someday.

To help you do that, we’ve put together a collection of quotes on death from writers and philosophers throughout the ages. Some are sobering and some are comforting.

So read on and take a few minutes to contemplate the fear, the hope, and the mystery that surrounds death. 

And after you’ve reflected on these quotes, make sure to check out our recent podcast interview with Joanna Ebenstein that’s all about how meditating on death can help us live fuller lives (many of the quotes below come from her fantastic book). 



“It is not death, it is dying that alarms me.”
Montaigne


“Men fear death, as if unquestionably the greatest evil, and yet no man knows that it may not be the greatest good.”
William Mitford


“We understand death for the first time when he puts his hand upon one whom we love.”
Germaine de Staël


“One may live as a conqueror, a king, or a magistrate; but he must die a man. The bed of death brings every human being to his pure individuality, to the intense contemplation of that deepest and most solemn of all relations—the relation between the creature and his Creator.”
Daniel Webster


“Death is the crown of life. Were death denied, poor man would live in vain; to live would not be life; even fools would wish to die.”
Owen D. Young


“To neglect, at any time, preparation for death, is to sleep on our post at a siege; to omit it in old age, is to sleep at an attack.”
Samuel Johnson


“There is but this difference between the death of old men and young men; old men go to death, and death comes to young men.”
Francis Bacon


“He who should teach men to die would at the same time, teach them to live.”
Montaigne


“A dislike of death is no proof of the want of religion. The instincts of nature shrink from it, for no creature can like its own dissolution.”
William Jay


“We sometimes congratulate ourselves at the moment of waking from a troubled dream; it may be so the moment after death.”
Nathaniel Hawthorne


“It is as natural to man to die, as to be born; and to a little infant, perhaps the one is as painful as the other.”
Francis Bacon


“When the sun goes below the horizon, he is not set; the heavens glow for a full hour after his departure. And when a great and good man sets, the sky of this world is luminous long after he is out of sight. Such a man cannot die out of this world. When he goes he leaves behind much of himself. Being dead he speaks.”
Henry Ward Beecher


“I know of but one remedy against the fear of death that is effectual and that will stand the test either of a sick-bed, or of a sound mind—that is, a good life, a clear conscience, an honest heart, and a well-ordered conversation; to carry the thoughts of dying men about us, and so to live before we die as we shall wish we had when we come to it.”
John Norris


“Those who learned to know death, rather than to fear and fight it, become our teachers about life.”
Dr. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross


“Death is like a mirror in which the true meaning of life is reflected.”
Sogyal Rinpoche


“Death twitches my ear. 'Live,' he says. 'I am coming.'”
Virgil


“Perhaps this knowledge of death, as a force that impinges on the individual, the community, and the cosmos, is what marks our species as, potentially, wise.”
Dr. Carol Zaleski


“In the attempt to defeat death man has been inevitably obliged to defeat life, for the two are inextricably related. Life moves on to death, and to deny one is to deny the other.”
Henry Miller


“The meaning of life is that it stops.”
Franz Kafka


“Dying is a wild night and a new road.”
Emily Dickinson


“For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.”
Kahlil Gibran


“Death is just infinity closing in.”
Jorge Luis Borges


“Life is a great surprise. I do not see why death should not be an even greater one.”
Vladimir Nabokov


“The call of death is a call of love. Death can be sweet if we answer it in the affirmative, if we accept it as one of the great eternal forms of life and transformation.”
Hermann Hesse


“Joy at the smallest things comes to you only when you have accepted death…. To be, and to enjoy your being, you need death, and limitation enables you to fulfill your being.”
Carl Jung


“Nothing can happen more beautiful than death.”
Walt Whitman


“Death. The certain prospect of death could sweeten every life with a precious and fragrant drop of levity—and now you strange apothecary souls have turned it into an ill-tasting drop of poison that makes the whole of life repulsive.”
Friedrich Nietzsche


“Death is our friend precisely because it brings us into absolute and passionate presence with all that is here, that is natural, that is love. Death stands before eternity and says YES.”
Rainer Maria Rilke


“Death is so genuine a fact that it excludes falsehoods, or betrays its emptiness; it is a touchstone that proves the gold, and dishonors the baser metal.”
Nathaniel Hawthorne


“The boundaries which divide Life from Death are at best shadowy and vague. Who shall say where the one ends, and where the other begins?”
Edgar Allan Poe


“There is no death. Only a change of worlds.”
Chief Seattle


“Of all the gods only death does not desire gifts.”
Aeschylus


“There is a land of the living and a land of the dead and the bridge is love, the only survival, the only meaning.”
Thornton Wilder


“Our dead are never dead to us, until we have forgotten them.”
George Eliot


“Death ends a life, not a relationship.”
Mitch Albom


“Those who are afraid of death will carry it on their shoulders.”
Federico García Lorca


“Every man’s life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and how he died that distinguish one man from another.”
Ernest Hemmingway


“Death is seen as an enemy only by those who set themselves in opposition to nature.”
June Singer


“Death is nothing to us; for that which is dissolved is without sensation, and that which lacks sensation is nothing to us.”
Epicurus


“All fears are one fear. Just the fear of death. And we accept it, then we are at peace.”
David Mamet


“Rehearse death. To say this is to tell a man to rehearse his freedom. A man who has learned how to die has unlearned how to be a slave.”
Seneca


“Death not merely ends life, it also bestows upon it a silent completeness, snatched from the hazardous flux to which all things human are subject.”
Hannah Arendt


“They that love beyond the world cannot be separated by it. Death cannot kill what never dies.”
William Penn


“If I take death into my life, acknowledge it, and face it squarely, I will free myself from the anxiety of death and the pettiness of life—and only then will I be free to become myself.”
Martin Heidegger


“No art is possible without a dance with death.”
Kurt Vonnegut


“Death is the mother of Beauty; hence from her, alone, shall come fulfillment to our dreams and our desires.”
Wallace Stevens


“He who fears death will never do anything worthy of a living man.”
Seneca


“Come to terms with death. Thereafter anything is possible.”
Albert Camus


“When I consider the short duration of my life, swallowed up in the eternity before and after, the small space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces which know me not, I am frightened and astonished.”
Blaise Pascal


“Has this world been so kind to you that you should leave with regret? There are better things ahead than any we leave behind.”
C. S. Lewis

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Podcast #1,091: Make Friends With Death to Live a Better Life https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/advice/podcast-1091-make-friends-with-death-to-live-a-better-life/ Tue, 28 Oct 2025 13:10:44 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191383  Reading in the email newsletter? Click here to listen to this week’s episode  We live in a culture that does everything it can to keep death at a distance. We hide it behind hospital curtains, euphemize it in conversation, and hustle through grief like it’s just another item on the to-do list. We don’t […]

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We live in a culture that does everything it can to keep death at a distance. We hide it behind hospital curtains, euphemize it in conversation, and hustle through grief like it’s just another item on the to-do list. We don’t want death to get in the way of living.

But my guest would say that making friends with death is the key to fully embracing life. Joanna Ebenstein is the founder of Morbid Anatomy, a project that uses exhibitions, lectures, and classes to explore how death intersects with history and culture. She’s also the author of Memento Mori: The Art of Contemplating Death to Live a Better Life. Today on the show, Joanna shares why we lost a more intimate relationship with death and the life-stifling consequences of that disconnect. We discuss practices for coming to terms with death and removing our fear of it, including looking at memento mori art, meditating on death, talking to the dead, and simply taking care of the practicalities surrounding our inevitable departure.

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Brett McKay:

Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast. We live in a culture that does everything it can to keep death at a distance while we hide behind hostile curtains, euphemizing a conversation, and hustle through grief like it’s just another item on the to-do list. We don’t want death to get in the way of living, but my guest would say that making friends with death is the key to a fulfilling life. Joanna Ebenstein is the founder of Morbid Anatomy, a project that uses exhibitions, lectures, and classes to explore how death intersects with history and culture. She’s also the author of Memento Mori: The Art of Contemplating Death to Live a Better Life. In today’s show Joanna shares why we lost a more intimate relationship with death and the life-stifling consequences of that disconnect. We discussed practices for coming to terms with death and removing our fear of it, including looking at Memento Mori art, meditating on death, talking to the dead, and simply taking care of the practicalities surrounding our inevitable departure. After the show is over. Check at our show notes at aom.is/mementomori. All right, Joanna Ebenstein, welcome to the show.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Thank you so much. It’s wonderful to be here.

Brett McKay:

So you founded a project called Morbid Anatomy that explores the different facets of death. You also wrote a book called Memento Mori: The Art of Contemplating Death to Live a Better Life, which is about how thinking about death, meditating on it, making it a part of our lives can actually improve our lives in the West, particularly in America. I think we’re not particularly comfortable with talking about or thinking about death. But what’s interesting, and you talk about this in your book, that wasn’t always the case. There was a time in America where we did have a relationship with death, and this was largely before the 20th century. So what happened? Why did people lose this relationship to death?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, that’s a great question and a really important one. And what I like to say, and I always say this to my students at the beginning of class, the idea that we can deny death at all is a luxury unique to our time and place. So until the late 19th to early 20th century, people butchered their own animals. People died in the home. The idea of a good death was to die at home surrounded by friends and loved ones. The parlor was a place to lay out the body of the dead in the home, and life expectancy was much shorter and many children died before reaching adulthood. And on top of that, we have wars and the Civil War, World War I, and the influenza epidemic. So I think this idea that death is something exotic and far away and something that is possible to ignore just wasn’t present in the 19th century.

That’s brand new. I don’t think any other culture has had that situation in our culture. When someone gets sick, they go off to a hospital, which is where they usually die. We put our old and old age homes. So these are all new developments that push the idea of death and aging further and further from our daily experience. And this was very much not the case in the 19th century. I think watching the movie Gone With the Wind, which many of your listeners out there probably have watched is a great, great example of how death was a part of everyday life in Victorian era in a very prosaic way.

Brett McKay:

My family, we just finished watching Gone With the Wind.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Ah, it’s wonderful. Right, and that scene, I think when we talk about mourning practices, I love to show that scene where Scarlet accepts the dance offer of Rhett Butler when she’s in mourning right. And shocks, everyone’s like, oh my God, you can’t possibly do that. So that shows not only death practices, but also the rigor of mourning for women especially.

Brett McKay:

Well, let’s talk about that. That’s interesting. You talk about it in the book, the rituals and culture that we had around death in 19th century America. It seems like we imported that from Victorian England.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yes, I think that’s true. And from what, I’m not a specialist in this, but from what I have read, it seems to me that death practices in the West had not changed substantially between the ancient Greeks and the Victorians until the present. So this idea of anointing the deceased with oils and dressing them and laying them out in the parlor or in the home for viewing, this was also done from my understanding in the ancient Greek world. So I think in the Western world, the Victorian traditions were very, very longstanding traditions that were probably part of all of Europe is my guess. And that’s how they made their way to the United States. It’s really only with modernization, the beginning of hospitals, the rise of hygiene. And then what many historians also point out is the kind of twin mass death events of the influenza epidemic in World War I that kind of wipe out those old traditions of mourning.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. So before the 20th century, death was just part of the home life. When someone died, they died in their home, and then the funeral and the body preparation, it happened in the home. It didn’t get sent off to a funeral home.

Joanna Ebenstein:

To a professional. It’s that professionalization. Absolutely.

Brett McKay:

And something I learned while reading your book, sort of this transition from the 19th century to the 20th century in our relationship to death, why living rooms are called living rooms.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Isn’t that amazing?

Brett McKay:

Yeah. Tell us about that.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, I read about this in, there’s a man in my community called Stanley Burns who is a collector of postmortem photography. Actually, I found his book when I was about 17, I think was a really life-changing event. So postmortem photographs are part of morning practice where people take pictures of their dead loved ones and keep them either as little keepsake say as a locket, maybe with some of their hair or maybe put it in the family photo album or maybe send out to friends, whatever. And he wrote a book on this tradition of postmortem photography where he talked about this. And so yes, I believe it was Ladies Home Journal. I can’t remember exactly the name. It was something like that. And it was in the early 20th century. Somebody wrote an article and they were basically agitating for people to change the name of the parlor to the living room because the parlor had traditionally been a place that you would lay out the bodies of the dead. But now with these new funeral parlors, the parlor was becoming a room for the living, the living room. And that’s where we get the name.

Brett McKay:

And you mentioned hair lockets another weird, I mean, not weird, but it’s interesting for us or weird for us, people would make wreaths out of the hair of dead loved ones.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yes. Living and dead. So if you look up for those listeners who are curious, if you look up Victorian hair art or Victorian hair work, you will see this. There were many, many practices that, again, as far as I’ve seen women did in the wake of a death as part of mourning. And I think of it as both memorializing the dead, creating a work that keeps the memory of the dead alive, but also is a form of mourning. So one of these is working with human hair. And actually here at Morbid Anatomy, we have a teacher, Karen Bachman, who has reverse engineered how hair art was created, and she teaches it for us. And I took this class, and I don’t know if you’ve ever tried, but when you try to work with human hair, it’s really hard and it takes a lot of concentration and it’s very meditative actually.

And by doing this class, I began to think, well, I think all of these women doing this in the wake of a loved one’s death, it wasn’t just about the final product that the final product is beautiful. It’s also about this meditative act that you’re doing with the mortal remains of your loved ones. And interestingly, we think about bone and hair being the two things that live on from our bodies when we die, and these hair works to speak to what you’re saying, these beautiful wreaths that are people create flowers or designs with human hair, sometimes in lockets making different kinds of designs. This hair that was made in the 18th or 19th century still looks beautiful today. So there is this immortalizing aspect to working with hair.

Brett McKay:

So in America, there was a period when death was just part of everyday life. You saw it every day. If you worked with animals, there were sicknesses where people just died, children died. That was a common occurrence. There were wars and people would die there. And in the 20th century, we had this shift where death became something we just hid. It became professionalized. And when you’re sick, you went to a hospital and then you die in the hospital and then your body would get carried off and a professional will take care of it. And it’s all very sanitary, but also impersonal at the same time.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And I am glad you brought up the sanitary because I think that’s really part of the drive too, is of course, one of the things that’s happening in the late 19th into early 20th century is changing ideas about what is hygienic and what is safe. So people start to be a little afraid of bodies where maybe they weren’t so much before. And this idea of getting rid of them as quickly as possible, which I think we continue to have today.

Brett McKay:

Okay, so death, we kind of hide it. We pretend like it’s not there. What have been the psychological consequences of having an aversion to thinking about and acknowledging death?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Well, from my point of view, I think there are a lot of very unhappy unrealized people. I know we’re going to probably talk a little bit later more about these kind of practices of how people kept death close at hand. But in my experience, from the different practices that I have spontaneously developed or learned from history, if you are able to come to terms with the fact that your time on earth is limited, it is much easier to make decisions about what you want to do with the time that you have and to live a life that is true to you so that you don’t die with a bunch of regrets on your deathbed. So my husband is a death doula, and so death doulas are practitioners that work with the dying to help them through the dying process. And what death doulas say is that, well, they group it into four different categories.

If you have regret, if you have unfinished business, if you have grief and shame, I think those are the four major categories. But essentially these things hold you back from a good death, from an easy death. Perhaps you haven’t said the words you want to a loved one. Perhaps you’re in the middle of a feud with someone and you wish you’d resolved it, whatever. And so death doulas help work with people who are on the verge or starting to see their end in sight to resolve these things so that they can let go and die peacefully. So I think there’s this not dying peacefully thing. And also in my experience, I think many people that I have seen die suddenly realizing that they wish they had done certain things in their life that they didn’t. And this is regret. And so for me, I feel like by contemplating death and by having practices where I’m constantly saying, okay, what do I want to do with my time on earth rather than What do I want to do?

If you just phrase it with my time on earth, suddenly you can feel that immediately, right? It’s like there’s an urgency and it kind of cuts through the model where everything is clear, that knowing there’s brevity helps, at least for me to see what it is that I prioritize, what my values are, how I want to live my life on earth. So I think when we neglect to do that, we neglect living a full life which might make us bitter or angry or sad or unrealized at the very least. And I think there’s a lot of fear around it, and that fear is really easily manipulated by others, I think.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. What are the benefits of making friends with death? I mean, that’s kind of the whole premise of your book. It’s like, well, if we get more familiar with death, it’ll help improve our lives.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah. Well, I’ll tell a story from my own past, which I think illustrates it. So I have always loved to travel. My family are all travelers. I really enjoy it, but I hate to fly. And anytime there’s turbulence, I freak out. And this is true to this day. And by freak out, I don’t mean jump up and down, I just mean my heart’s beating really fast. I can’t relax. And I used to be so afraid of flying that when I was waiting in line to get onto the plane, I would have these kind of intrusive thoughts where I would imagine the people around me and how they’d be acting if the plane was plummeting down. But I love travel and I wasn’t going to stop because I was afraid of flying. So the way I dealt with it, and this was a spontaneous ritual that I developed, is this is from about the time I was 13 on or something.

I would sit on the plane, I’d fasten my seatbelt, stow my overhead thing, close my eyes and think to myself, okay, if I die on this flight, what do I wish I had done differently with my life? And I’ve been doing that since I was 13. And I was really surprised to find when I was doing research for this book that Steve Jobs had a very similar ritual. So he did a commencement speech for, I think it was Stanford, right after he’d been diagnosed with a certain kind of rare cancer. And he revealed that he did exactly the same thing. He would look in the mirror every day and say, do I want to do what I’m doing today? And if the answer was “no” too many days in a row, he’d make a change. So I think Steve Jobs was saying and did say that by contemplating death, he lived this incredible life that we all remember him for. And I am no Steve Jobs, but I will say that I’ve lived a life that is true to who I am. And so although I do not want to die and I’m not seeking death, I hasten to say that if I did die tomorrow, I’d be okay with it because I did what I wanted to do. And I think that’s the gift that contemplating death gives. It helps one realize with clarity what one really wants to do with one’s time on earth, and also helps you have the courage to achieve it.

Brett McKay:

Something I was struck by is how the work of the psychologist Jung has influenced your philosophy of death. Can you tell us about that?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Sure. I love Carl Jung, and when I first read Carl Jung as a, I guess in my early thirties, a friend of mine, my friend Susanna McDonald, gave me a copy of man and his symbols. And when I read it, I was just thunderstruck and I just thought, wow, this person thinks exactly like I do, but he’s way smarter than me. So what I love about Jung is I feel that Jung creates a bridge to our ancestors. He has real respect for the way people have thought about the world, and he has a wisdom. And part of his wisdom to me is about wholeness, or I would say complimentary duality rather than binary duality. So the way that Jung looks at the world, there are these archetypal polarities. And so you have on the one hand life and on the other hand, death and the mark of a balanced healthy culture would be that we give equal primacy to both sides of that polarity.

And he has this idea of the shadow, which probably everyone’s heard of, and this is the idea that there’s a part of ourselves or part of our culture that is unacknowledged, unrecognized and pushed into the unconscious, where then it can create fear and dis-ease essentially from his point of view. The important thing to do with these polarities is to find balance. And it’s important to go into the shadow and bring it to consciousness. So rather than pretending it doesn’t exist, rather than saying, oh, no, I’m not like that, that person over there is like that trying to say, where is there a part of me that is in what I recoil from? And that just speaks to me. It feels very true and very balanced and young thought that he shared my view that contemplating death is essential to being a mature adult. And that’s something that instinctively, I think I always felt this idea that there’s a real, to me, immaturity, to pretending that we’re not going to die. Everyone who has ever lived has died and every single person will die. And so rather than deny it, it just seems to make better sense to look it in the eye, and then by looking it in the eye, it ceases to be so frightening.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. It sounds like you had to come to terms with death and embrace death in order to become fully human.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Exactly. And that especially as you got older, this is one of the things he said when you were from middle age on that one of our main tasks in life was to prepare for our own death. And part of that was to figure out what we think happens after you die. And he was quick to say that whatever you believe doesn’t mean it’s capital true. And it also doesn’t mean that your opinion won’t change later, but you must have, in his opinion, you must have your own idea of what will happen after you die. And that is part of what will ease you through the death process.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. Jung said you had to develop your own myth of death, and it didn’t mean you invented a fairytale about death to comfort yourself, but it was about creating this symbolic framework for yourself. It’s kind of like an inner narrative about what you think about death that will help you approach mortality with meaning rather than fear.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And it has to be what I think is so beautiful about what he said, it can’t be received wisdom. He would say, you can’t be on your deathbed and say, Dr. Yung thought this or that. You have to believe it. It has to be something that comes through your own struggle.

Brett McKay:

Yeah. What you do in your book is you offer readers, practices, exercises that they can do and also suggestions on films, books, art to look at, to help them develop their own myth of death. As you said, it’s not something you can just be told, you have to live it. You actually have to do this stuff. So let’s talk about some of these practices. Let’s talk about the title of your book, Memento Mori. This is a practice that has been done throughout the world and throughout time. For those who aren’t familiar with the practice, what is Memento Mori?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, so a Memento Mori is a practice or an artwork or a ritual that reminds you of your own mortality, your own personal death, so that you can then live the best life possible. That’s how I see it. And there are many, many forms of Memento Mori. The oldest that I know of were in ancient Rome, I’m sorry, in ancient Egypt. That’s the oldest that I’ve heard discussed where I’ve read that at the height of a feast, people would bring out a skeleton or a mummy as a reminder to those feasting that life is short. In ancient Rome, you might be gifted with a larva convivial, which were these little bronze skeletons at a banquet and also some banquet floors. I’m sure many of your listeners will be familiar with. These have skeletons of sorts. And this idea in the Roman tradition is carpe diem, like eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow, you might die.

Then in the Christian tradition, the meaning is a bit changed, right? It’s kind of the opposite. In the Christian era, you have rosary beads that are half living, half dead, or you have paintings of a skull in an hourglass, which probably many, many of your listeners have seen. And these were intended to remind the viewer that you might die, but in this case, not so you could eat, drink, and be merry, but rather so you could be ready to meet your maker. So a reminder to resist sin and resist temptation in order to live a holy life.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, Memento Mori is Latin for remember, you will die. And in Roman culture and ancient Roman culture, sometimes this is used to push to enjoy life while you had it, the whole carpe diem thing. But other times, especially with the stoics, Memento Mori was more of a moral check for virtue because it was a reminder time short. So be good. And people probably heard this story, which it’s not exactly true, but I think it captures the spirit of this  Memento Mori idea that when a Roman general was paraded through the streets of Rome, after a victory, he’d have a servant next to him who would whisper in his ear, Memento Mori, remember your mortal? And the idea was that it was to help him keep humble, despite having this big victory. Later on in art, you sometimes see carpe diem and Memento Mori paired together like you’d have a skull next to a blooming flower reminding people that life’s brief. So you got to make it count. 

Brett McKay: 

And I want to talk more about Memento Mori art, which has been a theme in art at different times. Any examples of momentum, moori art that really stand out to you?

Joanna Ebenstein:

So there’s many art traditions that draw on this. One is the dance of death. So this was something that came to prominence during the Black Plague, and this is when you see this whole series of images where death is leading off people of different genders and social stations. So you have death in the maiden, you have death and the priest death and the child. Those are really amazing and often these really wonderful looks at a culture at large. There’s another tradition called Death in the Maiden, which comes from what I can understand, not just the dance of death, but also the story of Persephone in ancient Greece. And Persephone was the goddess of the dead, but she started life just as the daughter of Zeus and Demeter. She was kidnapped by Hades, the king of the dead, and became his queen in the underworld, and she was basically abducted from her life.

And so this idea, again, of death in the maiden, there’s this image of a deathly figure taking a very beautiful young woman. Those are pretty amazing, and some of them are quite erotic and very strange if you’re interested in those. I have a book called Death: A Graveside Companion, and I collected as many of those as I could because they’re quite surprising. And they’re from around the 1600s or 1500s. They’re very, very graphic. But then probably my favorite Memento Mori genre are what are called Half Living and Half Dead. And these are images. If you look up half living and half dead on the Internet, you’ll find these as well, half a beautiful young man or woman with clothes that are fashionable in the time it was made and half either skull skeleton or decaying cadaver. And so the idea here is the inextricable relationship between life and death.

Brett McKay:

My favorite genre of Memento Mori art comes from the Dutch Golden Age, the Vanitas.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Oh, yes. Those are wonderful.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, tell us about that.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, so vanitas are kind of a form of still life, and I think it’s really interesting to note that still life in French is nature mort, which is dead nature. So there’s already a memento mori aspect built into the still life, which is shocking. But these are still life that are very explicitly about mortality. So you have skulls or glasses, you have decaying flowers, and you have all these symbols of things that you won’t be able to take with you into the next life. Globes and jewels and card games and all the pleasures of life. So these are beautiful oil paintings very beautifully rendered that you would hang in your home as a reminder of the brevity of all of the things you love.

Brett McKay:

And then you also mentioned that aristocrats in Europe, they would often just acquire skeletons or human skulls and just display them somewhere in their house.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Absolutely. And again, it was a sign of a memento mori. It was a reminder. And you see these in paintings of saints too. You see a saint holding a skull and contemplating it. So this idea of using human remains as a way to remind us of our death, that’s something that continues for a very long time. And I think it’s worth remembering too, that before we had these cemeteries where people would be buried forever, people would be dug up after a certain number of years so as to make more room for more people in the church. And then those bones would be kept often in artistic arrangements or in piles that would then act as a memento Mori as well.

Brett McKay:

That’s something I’m struck by whenever I read history books, even in America in the 19th century, how frequently people just unburied dead people to either move the body or sometimes just to look at the body.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, yeah. Or there’s that wonderful story of the pre-Raphaelite, was it Rosetti? I think it was Dante, Gabrielle Rosetti, who buried his favorite muse with some of his poems, and later in life decided to dig it back up to take the poems, but they decay. So yeah, I think that again, it’s coming back to this idea that I think we’re really afraid of the dead body now. We’re afraid of the dead, and that was not the case for most of human history.

Brett McKay:

An example of that, of a person in 19th century America who unburied a dead loved one that really sticks with me is Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Joanna Ebenstein:

I didn’t know about that.

Brett McKay:

His wife died and he was just distraught, and he decided one day to go to her tomb and open up the casket to look at her, and no one knows why he did it, but it was after he had that encounter looking at his dead wife, and I’m sure she was decomposing at that point. That’s when he quit his job with the church he was at, and he struck out on his own and started doing his essays and lectures on self-reliance and all that stuff.

Joanna Ebenstein:

That’s such a great story. I’ve never heard that, but that speaks to everything we’re talking about. His direct contemplation with death changed the course of his life, and he left the safe comfortable world behind and became someone we remember today.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, I think, I mean, we’re psychoanalyzing a guy that’s been dead for almost 200 years, but I wonder if he looked at his wife and just looking at her dead body, he realized she’s not coming back. I have to move on with my life. That’s over. I have to move on.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And it also reminds me in the Christian tradition and in the Buddhist tradition, there are meditations, death meditations that revolve around contemplating the decomposition of the body as a really strong momentum mori as a reminder that you will die of the impermanence of everything that you base your life on. There’s something really profound about that.

Brett McKay:

Yeah, I was speaking of cemeteries. I love going through old cemeteries that were built in the 18th and 19th century because a lot of the gravestones were Memento Mori, my favorite one. You’ll see it every now and then. A gravestone will say, here lies so-and-so, the date of birth, date of death, and then it’ll have a skull or something, and then it’ll say, remember me as you pass by as you are now. So once was I as I am now, so you will be prepare for death and follow me.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And so again, that just shows how long standing the sentiment and the idea that the sentiment is useful to us in some way is

Brett McKay:

Okay. So you recommend people make or collect their own memento mori, put it somewhere in their house and just it’s a reminder of death that you can look at. I think it’s a great practice that people can do. But you mentioned this death meditation as another way of doing Memento Mori. You mentioned the Buddhists have a death meditation, Christianity. There’s a history of death meditations. Walk us through what a death meditation looks like.

Joanna Ebenstein:

There are so many different kinds of death meditations, but one thing I’ll start with by saying is my husband is a longtime meditator, which is how he became a death doula. And what he tells us is that in the eastern tradition, meditation itself is a preparation for death. So the idea is that after the death of the body part of us lives on, and it has to navigate a series of confusing spaces in order to get to the next stage of existence, whatever that might be, many cultures that believe that I should point out on some level or another. But meditation is supposed to help us keep our wits about us in a moment of complete upheaval. So I think that’s a really interesting thing to point out. First, he teaches a death meditation for morbid anatomy, which is really about leaving your body in your mind and then coming back and also talking about what happens to the body as you start to die.

There are these meditations in the Christian and Buddhist tradition in which you meditate on different levels of decomposition of the body, and the Buddhist would even go to the charnel grounds and look at these bodies as a form of meditation and have artworks around it. My personal favorite death meditation comes from the Jungian tradition, and it’s by a woman named June Singer. And I found it so calming to do it, and I still come back to it in times of stress. It’s basically a slow letting go of everything you’re attached to in your daily life. So what really stuck with me is think of your desk and all of the piles of things that you’re working on right now. You can let that go one by one. You let the things you’re attached to go. And by doing that, there’s such a sense of, for me at least, it’s not fear, it’s relief, and it’s this reminder that the things that we find important right now, there’s so many things I imagine, Brett, for you, certainly for me, I have to do this and I have to do that, and I can’t wait.

But when you start to let go, that disappears. It’s not important anymore. You’re moving somewhere else. And if you’ve ever read any near-death experiences, which I really enjoy reading, this is what these people say again and again. So near-death experiences are when people who technically are dead, their brain is dead. They’re flat lining on an EKG. These are often people that are brought back from heart attacks or put into comas for surgery. And while they’re in this state, they have these different experiences and they all, or many of them, report this kind of feeling of letting it all go. And maybe it’s painful to let it go, but then when they have to come back, they really regret it. I think there’s just something really nice to think about that all of the things we think are so important right now that we’re so attached to the feeling of letting it go is a really beautiful feeling.

Brett McKay:

I think one of the scariest things about death is that we don’t know what happens after death. It’s the biggest mystery in humanity. So yeah, we always wonder, do we move to a different realm? Do we get reincarnated or is it we just cease to exist? How have different cultures throughout time thought about what happens to us after death?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, there are so many different particulars, but I’d say the overwhelming feeling of every, it seems to me, every culture until modern scientific culture is that there is some continuation where we go on in some way. And so in ancient Egypt at different time periods, there were a different number of souls, but as many as 12 different souls we had, which all went to different places, one of them goes into a statue, another goes into a mummy, another goes into an underworld. So there’s this tradition of more than one soul. And that’s pretty common. There is the tradition of reincarnation, which is really strong. The idea that we’re reborn or transmigration of souls, they also call it reborn into another human or animal form. There is the idea that we become ancestor spirits, so many, many cultures around the world continue to cultivate a relationship with the dead because it’s believed that they are in a realm where they can continue to assist the living and protect the living.

And I was just talking to a friend of mine who’s an archeologist about, I think he was talking about an African culture where they believe that if you’re separated from the bones of the dead, then you lose this vital protection that is part of how you can successfully live your life. So again, there’s different particulars, but I think the commonality is that we continue on in some way, and I think that’s what makes the last 150 or so years when this idea that I think many elites might’ve had but really trickles into the mainstream, that that’s it, that when we die, it’s zero game over. That’s when that idea really, really comes into our lives. And I think what Jung said, coming back to Carl Jung is that’s why it is our obligation to come up with our own myth of death because maybe for our great great grandparents, those questions were answered by their culture, by their religion. We don’t have that, or I shouldn’t say that. Some of us do, but more of us don’t have that than probably ever before in human history. So whether we’d like it or not, it’s our obligation to come up with our own belief and our own understanding.

Brett McKay:

And I think both beliefs, the idea that the soul continues on or it’s just you cease to exist when you die, whatever idea of death you take, both can be motivating here now as we’re living.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think another thing to that point that I include in the book is information about nurses and death, doulas who have worked with those who are dying and what their biggest regrets are. And I think that’s really interesting to think about. There’s a death doula in our community who says that when she’s working with a dying, the regret she hears the most is, I wish I had said I loved you more. And when you think about that, that’s a really simple thing to remedy if you keep in mind the fact that you’re going to die. So I think there’s so much we can do, again, using this as a God and as an encouragement to live a really good life unique to ourselves.

Brett McKay:

One of the interesting sidebars you had in that chapter about the afterlife and trying to think about what we think happens developing your own myth of death is idea psychopomps. Is that how you say it?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah.

Brett McKay:

What are psychopomps?

Joanna Ebenstein:

I love that word. Psychopomp is one of my favorite words. It’s from the ancient Greek, and it means soul guide, literally. And so a psychopomp could be a deity, it could be a shaman or a priest, and basically a soul pomp is someone who helps you make your way from one realm of existence to another. The figure that I end the book with is a figure called Latote, which is a new folk saint in Mexico, and she takes the form of a female grim reaper. And she is also seen as a psychopomp. She’s not the one who creates death. She’s not the agent of death, but rather she is your guide who takes you to the next realm.

Brett McKay:

We did a podcast back in 2022 with this guy named Christopher Kerr who has researched this phenomenon that happens. You talk about this in the book, I think it’s related to psychopomps, is as people get close to death, they start seeing visions or dreams of people who have passed away before them.

Joanna Ebenstein:

This is true. There’s so much anecdotal evidence or anecdotal suggestion that these old traditions are true, and that’s one of them. Yes, this is very common that people, I hear this from hospice nurses I know too. And not only that, but they say that this is partially how they determine how close to death a person is when they start to talk about loved ones coming to them and their dreams or visions, they know that they don’t have too much time longer.

Brett McKay:

And these people, they talk to them, they talk to these people in the room. And so if you’re in the room with a loved one who is dying, you might see them talking to their grandparent or their parent and you’re looking around and I’m not seeing anything but that person sees that person. This happened with my aunt. She passed away recently. She had some degenerative disease, and a week before she passed away, she started talking to herself, but she was talking to someone else. And when her sons asked her mom, who are you talking to? She’s like, well, it’s the lady in black over there. And they’d say, what are you talking about? And she’d say, well, that’s just between us and we don’t know who the lady in black was. It could have been an aunt, it could have been a grandmother. And what’s interesting is Christopher Kerr guy, he’s a doctor, and he’s not trying to explain like, oh yes, there’s life after death. He’s just trying to report on the phenomenon in an objective way. This happens. And one thing you notice when children are passing away, they typically don’t have anybody that have passed away yet, but if they had a pet that passed away, the pet will show up.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Isn’t that interesting.

Brett McKay:

And be their little guide.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And I think this speaks one of the main principles of my book that I start with some main principles, and one of them is, I call it practice versus belief. And this is what I love about these stories. I think there’s a way we can listen to these stories like you’re telling, which are amazing. And tell us something really interesting, and this is what I love about the union end approach as well, is we can say that those stories, whether they’re capital true, whether they reflect in actual reality, we can never know, or at least we can’t know at this realm, but we can know that they’re common and they happen to people, which means they’re real and means they mean something. So whether they’re happening in the psyche or happening with something beyond the psyche, almost doesn’t matter. It’s still a human situation, a human truth towards the end of life. And my feeling is even if that is an illusion from the perspective of science, what a beautiful illusion to have at the end of life. What a beautiful gift, right?

Brett McKay:

Oh, for sure. And it’s comforting to me, and this is something you mentioned earlier, that oftentimes when people have a near death experience, it feels so good to be transitioning out that when they’re brought back to life, a lot of times they’re really disappointed and sometimes just kind of angry, really angry about it. I didn’t want to come back. So it’s nice to know that whatever’s beyond getting there seems to be a really pleasant passage. So let’s talk about how we respond to the death of others. Do we know how long humans have been using mourning rituals when someone dies in their community?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, I think that that number changes all the time. But when I was working on the book, I think at least the Neolithic era, they found graves that have different kinds of offerings for the dead and the dead put into fetal position. So this seems to suggest that we have been mourning for at least that long.

Brett McKay:

Okay, so it’s been a long time.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah. I think it’s a human universal as far as I can see, that we have rituals around ushering the dead into their new realm of existence, however we perceive of that or conceive of that. So

Brett McKay:

How do these mourning rituals that we developed, how do you think they help us process the grief that comes when someone dies?

Joanna Ebenstein:

I think having a ritual that’s held in community helps create meaning around something that can seem chaotic otherwise, and also creates a place where we can share our feelings and our grief with the community, which I think is really essential. Some people think that our lack of proper grief rituals is a real epidemic in our particular culture. I talk in the book about Martine Tel, who unfortunately he’s passed away. He grew up in a Native American tradition and then end up being initiated into Mayan shamanism in Guatemala. And he wrote a book called Grief and Praise, which is really all about where he sees the shortcomings of the affluent Western world’s mourning practices, and in his traditions and indigenous traditions, the ones that he’s from, the ideas that we have to mourn fully to the extent that he says, you have to look bad when you’re done.

That’s what mourning properly means, bawling, shrieking, going through it all in order to get it out of our body, to literally express it, to push it out, because otherwise from their tradition, it can become disease, it can become tumors, which they call solidified tears. So I think there’s, between him, and then I was reading also a lot about, oh my goodness, it’s been a while since I wrote the book. I can’t remember his name, but he was an activist who was in Columbine, and he had been with his best friend when his best friend was shot, and he ended up becoming an opioid addict later in life due to prescription drugs. And he was saying the same thing in his mind, our lack of proper grieving is part of what creates the violent culture that we live in.

Brett McKay:

I’ve noticed this going back to this idea that we’ve tried to hide death in American culture, and we’ve lost a lot of the elaborate mourning rituals that we had that sometimes would take a week, two weeks, months, years even. 

Joanna Ebenstein:

Look in Gone With the Wind, right?

Brett McKay:

Yeah. Gone with the wind. And now what we do instead is like, all right, we got to get this funeral done. And then if you’re feeling sad, well then here’s an antidepressant or sedative. And sometimes people need that for their pain, but oftentimes it seems like they take it because they feel like they have to drug themselves to interact with other people. They feel like they can’t fall apart in front of others. You definitely can’t or scream. So they feel like they have to keep their composure and just move on. And so they need to take the drug to do what’s expected just to get on with life.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And I think to get people back to the workforce, I think people don’t really tolerate staying out of the workforce for too long. And it’s also worth mentioning that there’s a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry that this has helped cultivate.

Brett McKay:

So grieving over a loved one feels awful, but what can that grief teach us about love?

Joanna Ebenstein:

And that’s something that I turn to other people in my community because that’s not the kind of grief I’ve experienced yet. The people that I love and have lost were older, and I got to say my goodbyes, and I was there when they died, et cetera. But there was a woman in our community called Karen Montgomery, and she would come to a lot of our meetings. She was in a lot of my classes, and she was talking about the Treasures of grief. And so I asked her, could I interview you about this? And she was going through a situation where her father was dying of a disease that ultimately meant that he would drown in his own mucus, I think, in his own fluids. And she was watching him become closer and closer to that state. And what she told me that I think was really interesting and really beautiful, that her grief at times was absolutely horrible, but it felt like a cracking open also, and that cracking open allowed in other things.

So she said that she would have these incredibly moving experiences. It felt like she was feeling emotions much more closely. She would cry when someone said hello to her on the street. There was just a sense of the beauty of the world that I think was part of her very real reckoning with knowing she had a limited time with this man that she loved so much. So I think from what I understand, as someone who has not again, experienced that kind of grief, it can be a both and, right? I don’t think it means the grief isn’t present or there’s no pain, but it’s more like that pain opens you up. And I always think of, there’s a Rumi poem that I put in there that Leonard Cohen also drew on the imagery, which is the idea that it’s the crack in us that the light gets in, that the beauty comes in through the wound, through the crack, through the pain.

Brett McKay:

The grief makes the love more poignant. It accentuates it.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yes. And I think this is the other thing that we lose when we lose a contemplation of death. And going back to the vanitas paintings that you love. Part of what makes things so heartbreakingly beautiful is knowing that we will lose them. That’s our condition. That’s the earthly condition. But without that knowing, we would lose it is the beauty is intense.

Brett McKay:

You have a chapter where you talk about how humans have a tendency to communicate with their dearly departed, and even people who don’t necessarily believe in the afterlife will do this. What do you think is behind this desire to stay connected to the dead?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, I love that. And I was really surprised by that research myself. So there’s a guy up at Columbia called Nando who did this research. And what he says in his book, which is called The Other Side of Sorrow, I think, or the other side of grief, which I highly recommend, is that he was a scientist studying grief. And after his father died, he found that he was talking to him and he had no belief. He didn’t believe that there was a man in the afterlife that he could talk to. It was more just like a visceral response to the death. And what he found in his interviews is many people said the same. And in fact, they said, whether it’s capital T, true or not, doesn’t really matter, but they talk to the dead and it makes them feel better. And again, this is what I always want to come back to is this idea of practice over belief.

I spent a lot of time in Mexico and I was talking to a Mexican friend about his grandmother who has died, and I said, tell me about your grandmother. What do you do on Day of the Dead? And he said, oh, on Day of the Dead and on Simon Santa, I go to the cemetery and I talk to my dead grandmother. And then he’s like, well, I mean, I don’t know if I’m really talking to her, but that’s what we do. And I heard this again and again, it’s not, at least with young, educated people, the sense I get is it’s not about belief. It’s about tradition and practice. And I think that’s something we can all learn from. I think one of the biggest challenges to living at this particular time in human history is we have this voice inside us that’s always saying, is that real? Is it not real? Is that true or is it not true? And I don’t think 300 years ago, most of our ancestors had that voice. So I think it estranges us from experience. I talk to the dead, I talk to my cats, I talk to everybody. If I had to answer, do I really think I’m talking to the dead? I don’t know, but I know it makes me feel good. And I think that’s, again, coming back to our own myth of death.

Brett McKay:

I just love the idea of just staying connected to the dead. They’re still with you, even though they’re bodies in the ground decomposing, or maybe it’s been cremated. I mean, that’s why I love the movie Coco so much.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Oh my God, right?

Brett McKay:

It’s my favorite Disney movie. That movie destroyed me when I watched it. The thing that got me was when that one skeleton ghost guy who was about to be forgotten, because there’s only one person in the living world that still remembered him, and then that person died, and then that guy, no one on earth remembered him. And so he disappeared. And I was like, I don’t want that to happen to my grandparents, my ancestors. I want them to be their memory still to be here some way. So I want to stay connected to them somehow. So that’s why I like genealogy. I like looking at old pictures of my family that have died. I just love that idea of making sure that their memory still lives on in some way.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And I think that’s a deep, deep human drive. Again, in an age of rationality, we might question it, but that’s what people have been doing for millennia all around the world. It’s a natural part of being human, whether again, there’s an external truth that we’re responding to or it’s just what our brain wants to do. It’s real and it’s comforting, and it’s beautiful.

Brett McKay:

So one thing you recommend people do is to start thinking about their own death. So through Memento Mori, these different practices, getting comfortable with death, coming to terms with it, but also thinking about your own death and what you want it to look like, and there’s this idea of the good death that’s out there. What is the good death?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Well, I think that’s a very personal question. Typically, during the Victorian era, the idea how people wanted to die, what they called a good death was to die at home surrounded by their loved ones, including the children where they could then tell people what they wanted done with all of their property and things, and then dying peacefully. Now, it can be lots of things. I hear a lot of people saying that for them, a good death would be dying in their sleep without pain. So I think that’s a question one needs to ask themselves. What is a good death to you? If you could choose how to die, what would that be? For me, I’d like to be conscious. I’d like to go into the mystery with consciousness. I don’t want to be drugged. I want to experience this mystery, but I think that’s a very personal question. How about you, Brett? What’s a good death for you?

Brett McKay:

I was actually thinking about this while I was reading your book. So I’d like to be aware that I was going and I’d like to be surrounded by loved ones in my house. That’s how I’d like to die.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And I think it’s wonderful that more and more people through hospice, et cetera, being able to do that, right? I think that’s wonderful.

Brett McKay:

And then you also talk about different rituals that people have done on different cultures to prepare for their death. One is the Swedish death cleaning. What is Swedish Death cleaning?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah. So Swedish Death Cleaning is, I think it’s amazing, and it’s part of the Swedish tradition from what I understand, where as people grow older, an act of care and love and practicality is to start to get rid of their things. And I can say as someone who’s been on the other side of death in this culture, my ex-boyfriend, his mother died when we were together and emptying out her house was terrible for him. He had an estate sale, and it was so brutal to watch people picking over and trying to bargain on the things his mother loved that are now completely worthless. So the idea is to save your loved ones, this trauma of having to deal with all of your stuff. And so my mother’s going through this right now. She’s emptying her house. She’s going through every bag and every box and getting rid of things. So I think it’s a natural part. It can be at least a natural part of getting older and preparing for knowing that you don’t have that much time left.

Brett McKay:

And then you talked about this too. Even if you’re young and healthy and death is not anywhere near you, you can start preparing, doing your own Swedish death cleaning by taking care of the practicalities of your own death. And it’s just basic stuff that people talked about, life insurance for your family and make sure they’re taken care of when you’re gone. An advanced directive,

Joanna Ebenstein:

Absolutely.

Brett McKay:

What do you want? Want that to look like? A will. Estate planning, that practicality stuff. You don’t think about that, but it’s like the gift you can give your family before you go.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And just to piggyback on that, there’s a member of our community, John Troyer. He’s at the Center for Death in Society in Bath, and he lost his sister and his mother and his father, I believe. And he said if he could have changed anything, it would’ve been having their passwords. So I say that to all your listeners, leave your passwords somewhere for your loved ones. That’s something that I’ve done with my husband as well, a will and your password so that person can get into your bank account. And all of those things, you’d be shocked at how hard that can be once you die.

Brett McKay:

So after years of studying and teaching about death, how has your own relationship to mortality changed?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Well, I would say I’m not afraid of it anymore. And in retrospect, I would say that’s probably why I started this project. I started to have this obsession with looking at the way death was dealt with in different times and places as a way to understand things that could be complimentary to our own view. Growing up in a culture as many of us many are, listeners have, I’m sure, where we’re not given a whole lot of tools on how to deal with death or how to prepare or how to live our lives, really. And I think doing all this work, I’m ready to go. I mean, don’t want to, it’s not my dream, but whenever I start freaking out too much, I just go back to that Jungian dream meditation. And I imagine myself emotionally divesting myself from everything that I care about and how good that feels. And I just come back to that again and again in these times where so much is uncertain and we can only do the best we can and hope to die with the fewest number of regrets.

Brett McKay:

And it sounds like it’s improved your life now you’re happier, you’re more content. It puts things in perspective.

Joanna Ebenstein:

And I would say to an even greater degree, the reason that I’m ready to die is because I’ve lived the life I want to. I’ve taken a lot of risks. I don’t have a huge bank account. I don’t have a lot of security, but I’m doing work that I absolutely love that feels important and vital and meaningful to me and to my community. And that gives me a sense of meaning and satisfaction where I feel like this is what I wanted to do with my life, and I did it. And I’m really, I don’t want to say please, because it’s almost just satisfied. I have satisfaction and I have good relationships with people that I care very much about, and I hope to hold their hand, one of their hands as I go into the next stage of existence. That’s it.

Brett McKay:

Well, Joanna, this has been a great conversation. Where can people go to learn more about the book and your work?

Joanna Ebenstein:

Yeah, you can learn more at morbidanatomy.org if these are the sorts of things that interest you. I do encourage you to come. We have a really vibrant community of people from all over the world who are having conversations about this. We have classes, we have lectures, we have many books, and if you’re in Brooklyn, we have an open to the public research library. I’m sitting in it right now. You can also find us on social media at Morbid Anatomy on Instagram and Facebook.

Brett McKay:

Fantastic. Well, Joanna Ebenstein, thanks for your time. It’s been a pleasure.

Joanna Ebenstein:

Thank you so much, Brett. I’m so glad you enjoyed the book and it’s been a pleasure for me too.

Brett McKay:

My guest today was Joanna Ebenstein. She’s the author of the book, Memento Mori. It’s available on amazon.com and bookstores everywhere you find more information about our work at our website, joannaebenstein.com. Also, check out our show notes at aom.is/mementomori, where you’ll find links to resources where you can dive deeper into this topic. That wraps up another edition of the AoM podcast. 

Make sure to check out our website at artofmanliness.com where you can find our podcast archives. And while you’re there, sign up for our Art of Manless newsletter. You got your daily option and a weekly option. They’re both free. It’s the best way to stay on top of what’s going on at AoM. And if you haven’t done so already, I’d appreciate if you could take one minute to give a review of the podcast. It helps out a lot. And if you’ve done that already, thank you. Please consider sharing the show with a friend or family member. As always, thank you for the continued support. This is Brett McKay, reminding you to not only listen to the podcast, but put what you’ve heard into action.

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The Stockdale Paradox: A Philosophic Principle for Tough Times https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/advice/stockdale-paradox/ Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:07:21 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191375 On September 9, 1965, Navy pilot James Stockdale was flying a mission over North Vietnam when his A-4 Skyhawk took anti-aircraft fire. The cockpit filled with smoke. Warning lights flashed red. He ejected, breaking a leg in the process. As his parachute carried him toward a crowd of villagers armed with machetes and pitchforks and […]

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Black-and-white photo of a decorated naval officer standing in front of a modern building, with the text "The Stockdale Paradox" overlaid—a philosophic principle for navigating tough times.

On September 9, 1965, Navy pilot James Stockdale was flying a mission over North Vietnam when his A-4 Skyhawk took anti-aircraft fire. The cockpit filled with smoke. Warning lights flashed red. He ejected, breaking a leg in the process.

As his parachute carried him toward a crowd of villagers armed with machetes and pitchforks and the certainty of captivity loomed, Stockdale had one clear thought: “I’m leaving the world of technology and entering the world of Epictetus.”

You see, Stockdale wasn’t your typical hotshot naval aviator. He was also a philosopher — albeit an accidental one. In 1959, six years before his plane was shot down in Vietnam, the Navy sent him to Stanford to get his master’s degree. There, he met the philosopher Phil Rhinelander, a World War II veteran who introduced him to the Stoic philosopher Epictetus.

Years later, when his plane was shot down and he was imprisoned in the infamous POW camp known as the “Hanoi Hilton,” Epictetus’s Enchiridion would become a survival manual for Stockdale and the men he led. It would also help birth a guiding principle that got Stockdale through seven and a half years — four of them in solitary confinement — of torture and debasement: what’s now called the “Stockdale Paradox.”

The Stoic in the Hanoi Hilton

A military pilot in flight gear steps down from the cockpit of a jet aircraft, embodying resilience as he emerges with the open canopy behind him.

As the highest-ranking U.S. officer in the Hanoi Hilton, Stockdale became his fellow prisoners’ de facto leader. He organized secret communication systems by tapping on the walls, created a code of conduct for resisting interrogation, and encouraged a culture of courage, or what he called “hard-heartedness.”

Through all the trials and tribulations, Stockdale said, “I lived on the wisdom of Epictetus.”

Stockdale would recite lines from the Enchiridion silently to himself in the dark. He reminded himself that his captors could control his body, but not his will. They could take away everything external, but not his “inner citadel,” as the Stoics called it.

After seven and a half years in captivity and enduring excruciating torture, Stockdale’s war finally ended. On February 12, 1973, he was released as part of Operation Homecoming — the U.S. mission that brought American POWs out of North Vietnam. He was among the first group to leave the Hanoi Hilton.

The men were loaded onto transport planes and flown to Clark Air Base in the Philippines. As the aircraft crossed the Vietnamese coastline, Stockdale later wrote that he felt “a sense of completion — of having seen the worst that man can do, and having come through it with my honor intact.”

A man in a military uniform and cap, embodying resilience, speaks to another man in a jacket outdoors, with a blurred background.

When the plane landed, officers and reporters saw a gaunt figure stepping carefully down the ramp, gray-haired, limping, and visibly fragile. He was 49 years old. He saluted sharply and, according to Navy accounts, his first words were characteristically dry: “I’m fine. I’ve been in worse places.”

After a quick medical evaluation, doctors cataloged the damage: a broken back, a fused knee, and other injuries that would keep him from flying again. He began the slow process of physical recovery and reintegration into everyday life. He was awarded the Medal of Honor in 1976 and devoted the next 30 years to leadership, teaching, and public service.  

From 1977 to 1979, he served as president of the Naval War College, where he developed a curriculum focused on ethics and character under pressure. He told young officers that the development of virtue was the foundation of strategy.

A man in a military uniform with medals is seated at a desk, gesturing with his hands while speaking about resilience and the Stockdale Paradox.

After retiring from the Navy as a vice admiral in 1979, Stockdale returned to Stanford as a senior research fellow at the Hoover Institution. There, he lectured and wrote about philosophy, duty, and the discipline of command. He published a few books based on his experience as a prisoner of war and how philosophy helped him get through it, including Courage Under Fire: Testing Epictetus’s Doctrines in a Laboratory of Human Behavior.

In 1992, Ross Perot (the guy with big ears and charts) tapped Stockdale as his running mate on the Reform Party ticket. Millions of Americans first met him on live television when he opened the vice-presidential debate by asking a pair of unusual and characteristically philosophical questions, “Who am I? Why am I here?”

It was an opener that summed up a man who’d spent his life asking those questions when the answers held the highest stakes.

After the campaign ended, Stockdale returned to teaching and writing. He never chased celebrity. He knew his mission in life: keep translating Stoic philosophy into a language sailors, soldiers, and ordinary citizens could understand.

The Birth of the Stockdale Paradox

Decades after Stockdale was released from prison, business writer Jim Collins interviewed him for his book Good to Great. Collins asked how he managed to survive when so many didn’t.

Stockdale paused and said:

You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end — which you can never afford to lose — with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

That single sentence became known as the Stockdale Paradox.

In practice, it meant living in two opposing realities at once: facing the brutal truth of the moment while maintaining unbreakable faith in the eventual positive outcome.

Stockdale told Collins that the men who didn’t live to see the light of freedom were often overly optimistic. “They were the ones who said, ‘We’ll be out by Christmas.’ Then Christmas would come and go. Then Easter. Then Thanksgiving. And they died of a broken heart.”

Hope unmoored from realism collapses under its own weight.

Stockdale’s insight wasn’t unique to him. In another prison camp two decades earlier, psychiatrist Viktor Frankl made the same observation.

In Man’s Search for Meaning, Frankl described how prisoners who tied their survival to a specific date — “we’ll be home by Christmas” — often perished when that day came and went. Their hope snapped under the pressure of unmet expectations.

According to Frankl, the individuals who managed to survive often adopted a “tragic optimism.” It meant finding meaning in your suffering so that you could endure it.

Both men discovered that real hope isn’t naïve. You have to face reality squarely. It is only by accepting how terrible things are that the faith to endure can grow. 

Practicing the Paradox in Everyday Life

Most of us will never be POWs, but we’ll all face our own dark nights of the soul: financial setbacks, illness, loss, betrayal, uncertainty. The Stockdale Paradox can help guide you through these moments.

Here’s how to put it into practice:

  1. Face the facts. Don’t sugarcoat what’s in front of you. But don’t dramatize it, either. Just call a spade a spade. Your business is tanking. Your marriage is on the rocks. Your kid is struggling. You can’t fix what you won’t look at.
  2. Keep faith in the long game. Stockdale never doubted he’d go home. He just stopped pretending it would happen in the immediate future. Real hope doesn’t live on a timetable. Keep faith that things will be alright in the end, accepting that the positive outcome you desire may happen later rather than sooner.
  3. Focus on your circle of control. Epictetus’s favorite idea: distinguish between the things you can influence and the things you can’t. Effort, honesty, and attitude are in your control. Outcomes aren’t.
  4. Find meaning in the suffering. Frankl said that those who had a why could bear almost any how. Stockdale’s why was leading and taking care of his men and upholding his honor as a soldier. Yours might be keeping your family’s spirits up during a dark time. Find your why.

Desperate Times Call for Rational Insanity

Stockdale once joked that surviving required a form of “rational insanity” — the ability to see how bad things were and still say, “We’ll make it.”

That’s the paradox distilled. You acknowledge the ugliness of your current suffering while still believing that things will work out. You balance the realism of a soldier with the faith of a saint.

You can see the same mindset in everyday life: the single dad putting himself through night school while working and taking care of kids; the woman going through harsh chemotherapy that’s killing the cancer in her body, but also her body at the same time; the business owner scrambling to meet payroll in a struggling business. None of them pretends it’s easy. They just refuse to call it hopeless.

Practicing the Stockdale Paradox means learning to live in the tension between truth and hope, control and surrender.

So face the facts. Keep the faith. But don’t expect to be home by Christmas.

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The Myth of Scarcity: 12 Stupidly Easy Things That’ll Set You Apart from the Pack https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/advice/myth-scarcity-12-stupidly-easy-things-thatll-set-apart-pack/ Sun, 26 Oct 2025 15:54:22 +0000 http://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=59966 In the modern world, it often seems like it’s harder than ever to accomplish your goals. It seems like everyone has already done the thing you want to do — that your idea is already out there, that your niche is beyond saturated. Thinking about starting a podcast? So is everyone else and their mom. […]

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In the modern world, it often seems like it’s harder than ever to accomplish your goals.

It seems like everyone has already done the thing you want to do — that your idea is already out there, that your niche is beyond saturated.

Thinking about starting a podcast? So is everyone else and their mom. Hoping to write a book? With the advent of self-publishing, you’re not only up against authors approved by major publishing houses, but anyone, anywhere, with a laptop. Want to become a YouTube star? Better hope you get noticed next to the thousands of other folks uploading new videos every day.

There’s seemingly a million graphic designers, a million wannabe filmmakers, a million other, probably more qualified candidates gunning for the same job you want.

And that’s just in the marketplace. In your personal life, the competition can feel equally fierce. In the days of yore, you were just competing against people in your college or church to win the attention of a lady. Now you’re up against every Tom, Dick, and Harry on Tinder. The dating marketplace hypothetically stretches beyond your community to encompass your whole state, maybe even the whole country.

Yes, in both economic and personal spheres, demand seems high, and resources seem scarce. It’s enough to make you decide to give up and not try in the first place.

Yet this feeling of scarcity is just an illusion, a myth.

In truth, there’s never been a more opportune time to live. Not only because it’s never been cheaper and easier to write a book, share your art, or start a business, but because the average person’s ability to execute on the basics has never been in such short supply.

While opportunities to achieve your goals aren’t as scarce as you think, there are areas where true scarcity does exist: in common sense, in social skills, in manners, in reliability. There’s a dearth of people who know, or have the will, to do the stupidly easy stuff to be charming and successful.

Let me give you just one example. Both off the air and on, guests of my podcast will tell me, “I can tell you actually read my book before this interview and I really appreciate that. It’s so rare.” I don’t bring this up to toot my own horn, but rather to point out how ridiculous it is that this might even be something worthy of mention! An interviewer reading someone’s work before asking them questions about it would seem like the barest of bare minimum job requirements — a prerequisite rather than something above and beyond. And yet the majority of podcasters aren’t even taking care of this most basic of basics.

There are tons of people doing what you want to do, but how are they executing? In 90% of cases, not as well as they could be.

That’s your opening. And such openings are absolutely everywhere.

To take advantage of opportunities, people typically concentrate on stuff like building up their resume — going to the best school or getting the right internship. And certainly, these things can help.

But what’s missed is that it’s often doing stupidly easy stuff that’s going to allow you to make friends and land your dream job. It’s doing the stupidly easy stuff that almost no one else is doing that can most readily set you apart from the pack, and up for success.

What is some of that stupidly easy stuff? Below you’ll find a (non-exhaustive) list of the things it’s hard to believe people don’t do more often, and which have a huge ROI because most people can’t be bothered.

1. Write handwritten thank you notes, always and often. Thank you note writing has become such a lost art, and receiving snail mail is so delightful, that sending handwritten appreciation has become one of the most effective ways to set yourself apart from the pack. There’s never a bad time to send a thank you note. Received a gift? Send a thank you note. Job interview? Thank you note. Friend helped you move? Thank you note. Someone went to bat for you at work? Thank you note.

2. Edit your emails/texts before sending. No one ever catches all of the spelling and grammatical mistakes contained within their communications, but giving your texts and emails a couple reads before you hit send will tighten things up. These “clean” missives significantly contribute to making a winning digital impression.

3. Know how to make small talk. We spend so much time behind screens, that when we finally meet people face-to-face, our conversation can often be awkward and stilted. But being comfortable with small talk opens a tremendous amount of doors; sure, it starts out with the superficial, but it’s the on-ramp to deeper discussions — the pathway to relationships with potential lovers, new friends, and future employers. Fortunately, once you know the simple methodology that makes small talk flow, it’s easy to master.

4. Don’t be a conversational narcissist. Related to the above. The only kind of talk many people know how to make these days, is about themselves. Someone who knows how to listen and ask good questions comes off as stupidly charming.

5. Don’t look at your phone during a conversation. In an age of scattered attention, a person who can concentrate their attention on you, and fight the urge to look at their phone while you eat or talk — someone who can make you feel like the most important person in the room — is a charmer par excellence.

Can’t seem to pry yourself away? Check out our complete guide to breaking your smartphone habit.

6. Dress well for a job interview. You don’t have to show up to a job interview in a three-piece suit (unless the position calls for it); overdressing can make as poor a first impression as under-dressing. But showing up dressed just one notch above what current employees at the company wear will immediately set you apart from many other candidates. Well-shined shoes, a pressed shirt, and good hygiene will help too.

7. Come to a job interview prepared to ask questions of the interviewer. Whenever we post this article on “10 Questions to Ask in a Job Interview,” HR folks always weigh in with how “amazed” they are at the number of candidates who stare blankly when asked at the end of an interview, “Do you have any questions for us?” Know some questions to ask going in.

8. Take a woman on a real date. In a landscape of “What’s up”? texts and non-committal hang outs, taking a lady on a real date puts you head and shoulders above other suitors. What constitutes a real date? Watch this video and remember the 3 P’s: Planned, Paired Off, and Paid For.

9. Offer a sincere apology when you mess up. My generation seems to struggle with saying “I’m sorry” when they make a mistake. Numerous times I’ve had my order messed up at a restaurant, and when I bring it to the attention of the waiter or manager, they just shrug, say “Okay,” and fix it, without saying, “I’m sorry about that.” Then the other day an order of mine got messed up, and the manager took a totally different tack — comping my whole meal and bringing me a free dessert. That kind of treatment is so rare, it was unbelievably winning. I even found the manager after my meal to tell her so, and let her know I would specifically make an effort to return because of her gesture.

As it goes in the restaurant biz, so it goes with everything else. Most of your fellow employees will just say “Okay” when an error is brought to their attention. Offering a sincere apology that demonstrates you take responsibility and understand where you messed up and how it affects the company, will easily set you apart (so will immediately trying to make it right and preventing it from happening again).

And in your personal life, apologizing when you stumble is stupidly endearing. You’ll probably mess up again, and often with the same issue, but even when you can’t completely overcome your flaws, showing you’re at least completely aware of them goes a long, long way.

10. Send a thank you text when you get home from a nice party/date. In my opinion, this is the #1 easiest and best way to be a more charming texter. Yet almost no one does it. When someone has you over for dinner, or you take someone out on a date, once you part ways, they typically worry a bit as to whether or not you had a good time. And a party host wants to know their effort to throw the shindig was appreciated. So even if you thank your date/host in person at the end of the evening, once you get home, shoot them a confirming text saying, “Thanks again for the delicious dinner. We had such a good time!” Trust me on this, it’s stupidly, stupidly charming.

11. Follow through. I get a lot of emails from guys who want to do something with the Art of Manliness, like write a guest article or strike up a business partnership. They are excited! They are passionate! They are…MIA. They never follow-up or follow-through on their idea. I’ve often wondered what happens between their excited initial email, and their descent into silence. But whatever it is, it can easily be avoided by those committed to following through.

12. Be reliable. No quality today can more readily set you apart from your peers than reliability. Doing the follow-through just mentioned. Showing up on time (and just plain showing up). Meeting deadlines. Managing expectations and not overpromising. Promptly responding to emails. Keeping your word.

Are freelance graphic designers, artists, video/audio editors, app developers, programmers, contractors, etc. a dime a dozen? Surely. But a reliable creative professional or handyman? A pink unicorn. If you couple talent and skill with reliability, it’s stupidly easy to dominate your competition and your niche.

When you survey the economic and dating markets, they can seem incredibly oversaturated. Demand seems high and resources seem scarce. But when you take a closer look, you’ll find that while there are plenty of people all grasping after the same thing, there are only a few executing well on the attempt. Setting yourself apart isn’t complicated or hard; it often involves simply doing the stupidly easy stuff that everyone else overlooks.

Their obtusity is your gain; see through the myth of scarcity, take care of the basics, and the world is your oyster.


With our archives 4,000 articles deep, we’ve decided to republish a classic piece each Sunday to help our newer readers discover some of the best, evergreen gems from the past. This article was originally published in October 2016.

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The Hidden Fatigue of Switching — And How to Fix It https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/advice/switching-fatigue/ Mon, 20 Oct 2025 13:58:58 +0000 https://www.artofmanliness.com/?p=191276 Spend a day toiling as a knowledge worker, and you can leave the office feeling mentally fried. You may not have been that busy, nor done work that was even that cognitively challenging, and yet your brain still feels positively blitzed. The reason for this cognitive fatigue often isn’t the nature of the work itself. […]

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A person demonstrates task switching by using a smartphone in one hand while typing on a laptop with the other, seated at a desk near a window.

Spend a day toiling as a knowledge worker, and you can leave the office feeling mentally fried. You may not have been that busy, nor done work that was even that cognitively challenging, and yet your brain still feels positively blitzed.

The reason for this cognitive fatigue often isn’t the nature of the work itself. Instead, it’s all the switching it involves.

We’re constantly toggling between different devices, apps, tabs, tasks, and responsibilities. While each jump seems small, together they generate what psychologists call a switching cost — the hidden toll your brain pays every time it shifts gears. When you change focus, your mind must unload one context and load another: new goals, new cues, new rules of engagement. That reorientation burns mental fuel. Do it hundreds of times a day, and you end up depleted; the issue isn’t the amount of work you did, but how often you had to start over.

Paul Leonardi, a professor of technology management and the author of Digital Exhaustion, calls switching a new hidden tax of modern life, and it can have an effect not only on your productivity and the quality of your work, but on the quality of your life outside the office, too; if you’re coming home each day feeling like your mind’s been in a blender, you’re not going to have the mojo to go out with friends, read books, exercise, and pursue hobbies — the stuff that really leads to a flourishing life.

To mitigate this hidden but significant cost, let’s dive into exactly what this switching looks like, why it wears you down, and what you can do about it.

The 3 Kinds of Switching

Leonardi identifies three kinds of switching that drain our mental energy:

1. Mode Switching — Changing How You Think

Mode switching happens whenever you shift between different cognitive gears. You’re changing your mental frame — from reflective to reactive, from creative to administrative, from detail-oriented to big-picture.

Maybe you’re writing a strategic report (deep, generative thinking) when a Slack message pops up. You reply (fast, reactive thinking), then return to the presentation. Or you’re analyzing a dataset (analytical mode) and then switch to coaching a coworker (empathetic, social mode).

These brief detours feel harmless, but your brain just had to unload one mental model and load another. Then when you switch back to the previous task, you have to again change out your cognitive lens. That takes ample mental effort.  

2. Tool Switching — Changing Where You Think

Tool switching happens when you shift between platforms, systems, or interfaces. Modern work often takes place on both phones and laptops and across a dozen apps — email, Asana, Google Docs, text messages, Zoom, and on and on. Within a span of a few minutes, you may be moving between your inbox, ChatGPT, and Slack (with a quick stopover to Instagram).

Each medium has its own rhythms, layouts, shortcuts, and even social expectations; each has its own digital context. Moving between them requires mental translation. You have to remember which keyboard commands work here, which login you’re using there, what tone to strike in this other chat. Your brain must constantly reorient to different micro-environments.

Leonardi’s research shows that even “simple” tool switching can compound quickly. The average worker toggles between applications nearly 1,200 times a day! This keeps your mind in a perpetual state of fragmentation and partial engagement. You’re everywhere at once, but nowhere fully.

3. Role Switching — Changing Who You Are

Role switching happens when you move between identities. Each day you wear multiple hats — boss, teammate, parent, friend, customer, coach — and you repeatedly have to take one off and put one on. In a single hour, you might be leading a team meeting, interfacing with a plumber, and texting your wife about who’s picking up what kid.

Each role carries its own emotional tone and expectations. Each demands a different voice, vocabulary, and demeanor. Significant shifts in roles used to be buffered by space and time — you were in employee mode at the office, had some liminal downtime on your commute, and then stepped into dad mode when you got home. Today, the switches happen instantaneously, in the same chair, on the same screen. Without boundaries, the different emotions from different roles bleed into each other, and having to try to stem that bleed and compartmentalize your mindset around each role tuckers you out.

Why Switching Exhausts You

You may have noticed that while each form of switching can happen independently, they often overlap; we frequently switch between modes, tools, and roles at the same time. This only compounds their frazzling effect.

Whether engaged in separately or together, all three forms of switching draw on the same limited resource: executive control — the part of your brain that keeps priorities straight, suppresses impulses, and directs attention. When that system gets overloaded, you experience fatigue, indecision, and irritability.

You don’t just run out of energy; you run out of coherence. You start to feel scattered because, in a real sense, you are. Your attention has been shredded by a thousand tiny transitions.

How to Cut Down on Switching Fatigue

You can’t eliminate switching altogether — modern life requires it — but you can manage it. The solutions are simple, though of course harder to implement and consistently stick with:

1. Batch Similar Work

Group tasks that use the same mode of thinking. Answer emails once in the morning and once in the afternoon instead of all day long. Make calls back-to-back. Do creative work in uninterrupted blocks. Do a no-switching sprint where you commit to working on one task for something like 20 minutes with zero toggling to anything else. The goal is to stay in one cognitive gear long enough to find rhythm.

2. Minimize Tool Jumps

Audit your digital environment. How many apps do you actually need? Consolidate where you can. Keep your phone out of reach while working on your computer. Disable nonessential notifications so you’re not jerked between platforms.

If you can’t control the number of tools, control how you use them: dedicate windows of time to each rather than hopping constantly.

3. Use Microtransitions to Shift Between Roles

Re-build boundaries between your identities by creating microtransitions that can help you more smoothly segue between your different roles. After work, and before you go home, take a short walk or meditate in the driveway for a few minutes. If you work from home, go to the gym at the end of your work day or change your clothes before you shift into leisure time. Rituals help your mind switch cleanly rather than carry the residue of one role into the next.

I highly recommend listening to this podcast episode about microtransitions to learn how to create them and how they can improve your life.

Embrace Single-Thread Living

If everyone seems tired and burnt out these days, it’s often not because we’re trying to do too much, but how frequently we’re changing what we’re doing.

Every switch carries a cost. Our focus gets fragmented, our attention is pulled in too many directions, and we never fully inhabit our current context. We end up mentally blitzed and do everything in a mediocre way.

Doing our best work, and having enough surplus mental fuel to fill our lives with more than work, requires choosing fewer contexts at a time — less frenetic switching and more steady investing. It requires staying put mentally long enough for depth to form, remembering that it’s only in the deeps that the good stuff happens.

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